Last-Gen versions of Call of Duty Black Ops 3 being targeted for 30FPS instead of 60

Turns out developer Beenox is having trouble maintaining Call of Duty's signature 60FPS in the last gen versions of the game

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Yep, they're not even trying anymore. Last gen consoles are on there way out now.

[Sy_Wolf]

They are trying, there's only so much you can do with hardware that's over a decade old. The fact that they can get it running at all shows how hard they're trying.

[Deeke]

The xbox 360/ps3 version isn't being developed by Treyarch. Activision once again handed off a big budget CoD game to an inexperienced dev, and as a result, they've had to cut content.

So no, I'd say Activision isn't trying any more. And Treyarch knows damn well how to port Xbox 360/PS3 games, I am highly confident they could do it. It might take 2-3 discs plus extra downloaded content, but they could do it. They've spent so much time making CoD games on last-gen platforms, after all.

[MicrosoftMackin]

Lol COD aka same game engine for 2 console gens so far with very minor differences every year. I highly doubt this game is demanding other than being poorly coded and extremely resource inefficient.

[Sy_Wolf]

@Deeke The other team's only mission is to port the game, they're not doing anything else. Like it or not even Call of Duty is doing things on the current systems that just can't be done on the last gen ones. The fact that the PS3 and 360 are getting ANY big games at all is unheard of. Treyarch do know how to make games that work on the 360 and PS3, that's irrelevant. They're making games that work on the PS4 and Xbox One now and the fact of the matter is those are much more capable systems.

@MicrosoftMackin You're just wrong on so many levels, not going to even try to explain it to you.

[wellard]

Sy_wolf. How is he wrong? It is a ridiculously old engine isn't it? Cod games are notoriously lacking in innovation aren't they? Isn't that what every single comment section on cod posts is full of? Heck for innovation let's watch some Ai fish on copy and paste maps which use copy and paste resources.

[Game4Next]

PS3 is dead, Long Live PS4!!!

[Sy_Wolf]

@wellard just because it's an old engine doesn't mean you can't do things with it that can't be done on the older systems. Ask saying it's an old engine isn't exactly true. It's like saying the Arkham Asylum engine is old. Technically true but they've changed so much it's really not true. Also Arkham Knight is another game that couldn't run on old systems. There's only so much you can do with hardware that's 10 years old. You must not know much about computers or game development if you honestly think any game that can be made on the PS4/Xbone can be made on the PS3/360

[ThunderPulse]

The game shouldn't exist on last gen.

[freshslicepizza]

agreed but this is activision, if they can make an extra dollar they will. destiny should have been on the pc not ps3 and xbox 360 but again it's about getting as much money as they think they can

[Halo2ODST2]

30fps is damn fine, at least they're not sacrificing split screen.

[Phunkydiabetic1]

@deeke

You cant be fuckin serious....you really think having the game on "2-3 discs" will somehow help the framerate? For real?

[TheSaint]

About time.

[HaveSumNuts]

30fps multiplayer only game with no campaign? Only idiots would pay full price for the last gen version for this game.

[DarkOcelet]

Unfortunately there is alot of idiots out there who will buy it.

And also there are those who are uninformed that it is online only since they dont go on gaming websites.

[TheUndertaker85]

It's right on the case for 360 and PS3. It however is not "online only".

http://m.gamestop.com/produ...

[neoandrew]

TheUndertaker85

It is, 360 and ps3 version doesn't have the campaign included

[TheUndertaker85]

@neoandrew: It was never stated zombies nor multiplayer would not feature split screen. The campaign will not be the only split screen experience nor would online be required to play zombies.

[ger2396]

So people are now idiots for buying what they like?

[DarkOcelet]

@ger2396

If people knew its only 30fps and doesnt have a campaign mode and its 50$ on last gen and still bought it then they are ok with being ripped off and those to me are either idiots are have alot of money to throw mate.

[zidane1341]

@doctorfraud: lol your funny. "casuals" cannot tell the difference between 30fps and 60. if there casual then they probably watch movies or tv more, which movies are 24fps so I highly doubt they'd notice

[stuna1]

This probably is their reasoning to try to force an upgrade!? If true, it's kind of ingenious.

Once gaming pals see their friends moving on to this gen consoles and seeing what they can do as well as the upgraded visuals, many will follow.

Thinking about it, many last generation consoles owners who don't follow what's going on in the industry could possibly believe that this generation consoles are so much more advanced that due to development issues this generation games can't fit or work well on last generation consoles because they've become much bigger in size and scope.

[etownone]

No campaign?

I didn't know that.

[Jamaicangmr]

I wouldnt go as far as to say idiots. The options are limited if you only have a last gen console.

[inf3cted1]

Kids dont really look if its 30fps or 60fps. It will still sell

[NeckBeardBSMTDweller]

@Theundertaker - Dude the cover art in your link shows REQUIRES INTERNET. How the L. Ron Hubbard isnt that online only?

[JamesBroski]

A lot of people don't have next-gen consoles. And most CoD players don't really follow gaming news. They'll buy the game without even knowing what they're buying. It's another trick from Activision to get more money.

[SUCKxITxEZ]

They did the same thing last gen with the Wii. All the big CoD games were ported to the Wii and ran at 30fps or less and had horrible graphics, but I had fun with them. I also had a hacked Wii with a 1tb drive hooked up to it, so I can't fairly judge the value, plus the Wii had a unique control scheme, which the ps3 and 360 don't have.

[FlexLuger]

Wow.....Thats gonna piss a few last gen owners off....But for real its time for them to upgrade to current gen. X360 and PS3 did more than enough in their life cycles but its time for them to be retired.

[Paytaa]

Agreed. With the deals this holiday, it'd be foolish not to upgrade to a PS4 or Xbox One. With that said, they should have cancelled the last gen version altogether. Gives more of an incentive to upgrade.

[JamesBroski]

They only do so to have even more sales. Plain and simple.

[Halo2ODST2]

Here is an incentive not to upgrade (I have got x1) there are more games on last gen, and better games, whereas on x1 there is destiny which is meh (ttk improved it), halo mcc which as a halo fan have played the games to f''k, titanfall doesn't have a hook and gets boring fast, gears 1, err have it on 360, - I would urge people not to upgrade until there is good games, my 360 has became my primary console again, because there is so much fun to have on it

[keki]

they had plenty of time to save up this past two year..i don't feel bad at all.

[Halo2ODST2]

Why? Why would it pies of last gen users? 30 frames is perfectly acceptable . the game being at 30 doesn't just suddenly make the game unplayable

[triple_c]

And Pro Skater 5 was recently delayed on last gen too.. Pro Skater 5 is most likely going to get canned. These developers aren't even trying anymore.. Wow.. so not only are you last gen guys getting games that are being delayed and cancelled but you guys are getting games that aren't polished with less content than current gen versions.. I've said this before and I'll say it again, these AAA games need to stop coming to last gen. You last gen guys need to get on the next gen train. PS4 just got a price drop, the Xbox One might get a price drop, black friday is right around the corner so you'll be able to get all kinds of crazy deals and it looks like both consoles will be hitting their stride in 2016 when it comes to exclusives. Now is the perfect time to get on the next gen train.

[neocores]

BS... If we can get big games like Skyrim that look amazing on ps3 and they cant hit 60. They are lazy plain and simple

[Apocalypze]

Am sure is way more complex than that , otherwise every game would be 60fps

[TheUndertaker85]

Skyrim barely ran at 30. Halo had to, if reports are to be believed, ditch split screen to even hit 60 and they aren't even talking about a locked 60. The only place it's available is Xbox One, not being "held back" by 360.

The fact is the only console that's going to offer 1080/60 and still offer four player co-op both offline and online is the PS4. If 343 told the truth about the removal of split screen for Halo 5 to even get 1080/60 it won't be possible on Xbox One.

[81BX]

Halo says: piss off mate!

[TheUndertaker85]

@81BX: Sorry your product aimed for a visual experience instead delivering a half baked product that still can't boast everything a third party title does.

Sorry I also stated "facts" delivered by 343 themselves as to why split screen is missing but "possible in the next entry".

Sorry your fanboy panties are in a twist and as facts have shown Xbox One just can't do it. Even Xbox exclusive devs admit it.

If it's not the truth sorry an exclusive developer chose to cut portions of the game so they didn't have to work for a full product.

[CernaML]

LOL Skyrim ran like ass on PS3 and I wouldnt call it visually impressive.

[NeoGamer232]

LOL. At some point developers have to ask themselves...

"Is this port really worth doing?"

Cut the SP and then dumb down the FRS for MP (Which is the game). How obvious does Activision's milking have to get before gamers quit falling for it?

They've made Call of Duty, Skylanders, and Destiny into yearly "sports" games like EA have.

[Imortus_san]

RIP COD, this year sales are going to fall big.

[meche334]

This better look very good.

[akurtz]

somewhat disappointing, advanced warefare ran at sub 60

[franwex]

Woah, talk about a stripped down version. I'm sure those gamers know what they are getting into; plus if they are hardcore COD players most likely they already upgraded anyway.

This is mostly aimed at players who want a multiplayer shooter for a weekend or something or a grandma buying a gift for her grand kid for the holiday.

If Activision sells only 100,000 on PS3 and Xbox 360 they already pocket about a cool $1,000,000. Why leave that potential money out there?

I feel this is mostly also Activision testing out how worth it is it to develop to the previous gen too.

[esmittystud101]

Major retailers are already weaning out Xbox 360 and PS3 games. When I went to go look for something for my son there wasn't much to choose from. Hardly any Xbox 360 or PS3 games were even there. Gamestop is pretty much the best place at a retailer now to look for them. But there all used games though. Hardly any new copies.

[Hugos]

Ehh...CoD for PS3 and X360 cannot have single player camaign or even 60 fps mulitplayer. Thats ridiculous. Maybe they will limited weapons to the surviving minimum - MacGuyvers scissor? Better on the field are people from CI Games, which develops Sniper Ghost Warrior 3, where from the start everyone knew, that this will be only nex-gen game. So they dont need to hide something or make a cutted port to older consoles.

[sullynathan]

lel

[MetroidFREAK21]

Wow... This made the hottest story bar today. I'm honestly shocked. Thanks everyone. This is my first article I've posted :) Glad everyone is basically having the same reaction I did

[Tankbusta40]

If you're mad get a current gen system... They are two years old now... Really unless there is a financial bind there is zero reason to still be playing last gen

[ninjahunter]

Playing the beta on PC, it didnt seem like there was anything that would justify the game running worse on last gen consoles than previous call of duty games.

[GranTurismoFan]

Should've went with BluePoint

[Gamist2dot0]

Why not display the game at 540p? People who game on last gen could careless about image quality anyway.

[Locknuts]

I'm surprised it runs at 60fps on those tablet CPUs TBH.

[StormLegend]

We better not see any games like this for PS3 and 360 next year.

it's time to let last gen go!!!!

Upgrade already!

[Shuckylad]

For AAA games yes upgrade. I have upgraded to both ps4 and Xbox one. But I still play on my PS3 and xb360 more. I'm really disappointed in this new gen so far.

[jonrhoades87]

Considering Advanced Warfare was just fine to me on 360 and fully featured, I see this as a blatant attempt to get people on the upgrade bandwagon. But I digress, people can't expect support for 7th gen to last an eternity either. They had their time and the libraries are easily accessible and cheap nowadays.

Would have been better had this game never come out for last gen at all.

[BladerunnerZX]

Advanced Warfare both looked and ran great on the PS3 and Xbox360.
AV should have been the last COD released for the last gen consoles.
At least AV was a full experience with campaign , multiplayer and zombies.

[sur3shot]

Well the way I look at it. I have a ps4 and a ps3 and I will get the ps3 version. Why? Because it is free for online. Why would I pay 79.99 for the game and then 49.99 to play online? While I can pay 59.99 for the game and play online for free. I don't play MLG nore twitch I just play the game and have fun. My ps4 right now just sits there and I am playing Mega Man Collection. Great Game BTW.

[Father__Merrin]

last gen cod should be off the shelves. I feel sorry for those who will buy thinking they are getting the classic cod multiplayer