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DayZ Creator & Garry's Mod Creator Share Their Thoughts On Valve's Modding Policy

DSOGaming writes: "As you may have guessed, Valve's decision to start charging for mods has been today's hot topic. And while we shared our opinion about this topic, it's time to see what some well known modders had to say about it."

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Nio-Nai3326d ago

Just like I covered in the other posts, other modelers and real people in the industry are for the move.

They may think that 75% going to steam is too steep which may be the case, but paid modding is supported by the people who actually make the mods and the games. The community who wants free goodies are yet again the only ones upset by the idea.

Grap3326d ago (Edited 3326d ago )

Shut up, other modders already selling their mods who the hell want 75% of their profit cut? that's just absurd. and also Dean already selling his trash(unplayable broken game) for full price.

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Xristo3325d ago

Wow, imagine that! Dean Hall, who already monetized DayZ, agrees with Valve's move! Who would of thought?!

Let's dig a little deeper than the obvious money hungry modders...

How about Chesko? Creator of Frostfall for Skyrim. Here is a quote from his page on Nexus:

"Thank you everyone very much for your outpouring of support. It means so much more than you know.

I have taken every mod I have ever published off the Workshop, and it will stay that way. The Nexus files will remain; in the end, this is the community that has supported me every step of the way. Arissa is currently hidden until we decide what to do.

I have deleted many of my accounts and will be leaving the modding community for a time. I don't know how long.

Thank you again."

http://www.nexusmods.com/sk...

Again, Nio-Nai, you are disconnected from the modding community.

Nio-Nai3325d ago

His last mod update was August of last year....

So again, someone who hasn't even been in the active community.

good job.

Roccetarius3326d ago

I'm not sure about Garry, but Dean is not that surprising. I mean, they're already charging for a broken game currently.

Takwin3326d ago

I do not trust or value anything Dean says. He is right in line behind Cliffy B to get an ass kicking.

700p3325d ago

you cant kick anyones ass.

WellyUK3325d ago

It's called Early Access for a reason... You people really are thick as shit aren't you. You don't have to buy it... It gives a massive warning when you load it up and on the store page that the game isn't finished, yet you still bitch and cry.

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Grap3325d ago

what a twat.. it has been early access for more than a year. what kinda of early access is that???... you are deluded if you think it's justified to pay 40$ on it.

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Chapter113326d ago

Speaking as a modder, this is a terrible move. As if enough terrible junk didn't already clutter the modding landscape, this is only going to make matters worse. Valve has shown they don't believe in quality control with Greenlight and Early Access, the mod workshop is just going to become another steaming heap.

jdiggitty3325d ago

That's a good point. Steam isn't exactly known for it's support.

Father__Merrin3325d ago

the only game I run with mods is skyrim. things like saturation mod level upbquick mod are these going to be paid

Antifan3325d ago

Of COURSE Dean Hall supports this. He made millions off a broken game, and still to this day won't fix it. The truth is, when some of these talented Modders create a one-hit-wonder, they get sucked into a vertex of greed and laziness. They have no obligation to finish what they started. But I bet if Dean was still a Modder, he would criticize this up and down, left and right, because all those donations would be no more.

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Steam Account Transfer Via Will on Death is Not Permitted, Valve Confirms

In case you were curious, a Steam account transfer via will is not permitted according to an official response from Valve.

anast4d ago

The games are theirs. People just pay to ride the ride.

Skuletor3d ago

Would be nice if the article's writer looked into and reported whether other digital game libraries could be transferred over via will (Xbox, Playstation, Nintendo, EGS, EA app, GOG, Ubisoft Connect, Rockstar Launcher etc) instead of this half-baked piece but it's probably the same for all of them anyway

Kornholic3d ago

This seems like a way bigger issue than mandatory PSN account linking for PlayStation games.

So where is the outcry?

Skuletor3d ago

It's not like PlayStation is doing any different.

"You may not sell, buy, trade, or transfer your Online ID, Account or any personal access to PSN Services through any means or method, including by use of web sites."
https://www.playstation.com...

Kornholic3d ago

So you are that saying Steam is being very anti consumer with its policies. That's why I'm so baffled by the lack of outcry from the PC audience.

NotoriousWhiz3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It's not like your account just stops working when you die. Include your email, account id, and password in the will (including the password to your email) and your survivors should have no problem using your games.

anast3d ago

PC gamers are a different lot. They don't mind renting their games forever, they don't mind spending money on overpriced equipment, and they don't mind fiddling with settings for hours before they even play the game, but linking a PSN account demands a riot. This is hard to understand, but then again, we all have to draw our lines somewhere.

Skuletor3d ago

You sure talk a lot of nonsense.Go look up the percentage of digital sales compared to physical sales of PS5 games, then tell me again about "renting" games.

mandf3d ago

Overblown funny and 100percent true

anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

There is no option at all to buy a physical copy of a PC game... And more people game on consoles for the reasons that make PC gamers a different lot.

VIK21213d ago

it's not so much the linking but the fact that certain countries aren't allowed to access psn...

VIK21213d ago

@anast I have a disc ps5 since launch, initially I bought some disc games, but I can't be bothered to walk to a physical store nowadays... I just buy the titles when they go on special sale or gray market store like CDKeys...

DustMan3d ago

PSN was a different story altogether. It kept people who bought the game from playing in countries that PSN wasn't supported. I never understood the issue anyway.

I don't know if PC stuff is overpriced considering that you can buy a new video card with the same amount of money you'd spend over 5 or 6 years paying to play games online with a console. I'll never pay double to use the same connection. That is what I'll never understand about console gamers. "let me pay an extra hundred & twenty dollars a year to use the same internet I pay for monthly and use on literally every device in my home for free....except for my Playstation"

Extermin8or3_3d ago

@Skuletor about 50-60% of sales are digital for most games. Meaning 40-50% are physical....

anast3d ago

@VIK

You might not but you are not the expectation that creates a universal.

Skuletor3d ago

@Extermin8or3_
Right and where are you getting that information from?
https://www.statista.com/st...

@anast

"Renting games"
In the fourth fiscal quarter of 2023, approximately 77 percent of Sony Corporation's PlayStation gaming sales were generated via digital downloads.

"overpriced equipment"
Some people are willing to pay a premium for better performance, the way you keep talking about the PS5 Pro on N4G proves you're a hypocrite in that regard but whatever, lol

"fiddling with settings for hours before they even play the game"
Most pc games will give the option to scan your system to choose recommended settings or start with moderate settings that will run the game fine but you're free to mess around at your own leisure, to improve performance or quality if you wish to. For those that don't want to, there's free software that can do that for you, such as Nvidia's Geforce or AMD's AMD Catalyst. Geforce Experience even gives you the option of choosing whether to prioritize performance vs image quality with a simple slider for easy optimization, it's not rocket science, like you try make it out to be.

"linking a PSN account demands a riot"
Playstation selling Helldivers 2 in regions without the legal means to create a PSN account by Sony's own standards, then telling people in those regions that already bought the game that they can no longer play the game, isn't a cause for concern? Though you've already heard about that but keep going along with your own narrative because of your weird vendetta against PC on here.

This is hard to understand, but then again, we all have to draw our lines somewhere.

PRIMORDUS3d ago

I don't rent I torrent to keep, if they take them down that's ok I don't care I have them LOL. I do buy PC games but very little as I want full control which is why I torrent to keep them in my collection, and I do not give a fuck what the devs or publishers want. I never did never will.

anast2d ago

@DustMan

Just like you can choose play games on low to barely mid settings for the price of a PS5, you can also choose not to game online on the PS5. So, now you are getting a better gaming experience and not paying extra for online.

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thorstein3d ago

So just give your progeny the passwords.

OtterX3d ago

Keep the password sealed in the Will, only to be opened after death. :)

Aphrodia3d ago

Right? How are they gonna know you are dead?

FinalFantasyFanatic3d ago

The only way they will know is when an account is active for 300 years, lol.

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Unannounced Valve 6v6 Shooter MOBA Footage Leaked

ESTNN writes: "A leak for Valve's 6v6 3rd-person shooter MOBA has supposedly been released ahead of time. And if the reports are true, fans of the genre have much to be excited for."

XiNatsuDragnel10d ago

Deadlock looks like bioshock and Moba had babies

JunonZanon9d ago

Valve really cannot count to 3.

Number1TailzFan9d ago

They should've had a new L4D like 10 years ago, it can be expanded upon a lot more but they just left it collecting dust.. it was a good game for its time but L4D2 doesn't have nearly enough content these days to keep players engaged, and it needs a serious graphics upgrade

mastershredder9d ago

Nice bend at the knee there Gabe. Seriously? A quirky character arena shooter? This late into the me-too-shooter market? I thought you guys were so much better than that crap. Gabe must need a bigger yacht.

kitano19479d ago

clown comment, valve are famous for letting their devs work on whatever they want as they have no share holders to please. hence why we rarely get games from valve but when we do they generally are great.

icefrog, the original modder who created dota on warcraft 3 is working on this with some other members at valve.

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DayZ New Expansion "Frostline" Announced for Q4 2024, Key Features Revealed

Bohemia Interactive has today revealed DayZ's new premium expansion called "Frostline," which will be out this Q4 2024.