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6 Secret Next Gen Announcements Being Shown At E3

For Microsoft, Sony, Ubisoft and EA it was one last shove for the current generation. For Nintendo, it was a slightly botched attempt at pushing towards the next one. Peppered throughout every presentation, though, were telltale signs of the future, hidden in fresh new tech and blindingly pretty games. Here we uncover six, hiding in plain sight.

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Pandemic4377d ago

Out of those six, I found Watch Dogs to be the most next-gen looking title.

Hufandpuf4377d ago

I thought the star wars game was the best looking IMO. Watch dogs does look very good though.

LightofDarkness4377d ago (Edited 4377d ago )

Graphically, 1313 is the most impressive gameplay we've seen. Watchdogs is still extremely impressive, particularly so when you factor in that it's supposedly an open-world/sandbox style game.

In terms of most impressive real-time graphics shown, that easily goes to the Final Fantasy demo. That was pretty incredible, actually. It's hard to believe that something so amazing is possible on hardware that's available right now.

@ TCG: http://www.gametrailers.com...

Enjoy :)

TCG_Returns4377d ago

FFvs demo? Never herd of any demo being shown

I must search for this..

Nimblest-Assassin4377d ago

Both Watch Dogs and 1313, were run on a high end pc with Nvidia.

Im excited for watch dogs... but iffy on 1313... the last star wars game force unleashed 2, got my hopes up so high... but were then crushed brutally by a lame 4 hour story, and zero replay.

The fact I only saw around a minute of footage for 1313 doesn't help either. Game is not on my radar... but once again Im cautiously optimistic after being burned by TFU2

GillHarrison4377d ago

In response to LightofDarkness, While Final Fantasy does look absolutely incredible, let's first see the game running with physics simulation, AI tasking, and view-distance variables (gameplay) before we jump to conclusions. Though it does show that a DirectX 11 PC can run cut-scenes that look as incredible as we saw in real time.

Blasphemy4377d ago

Star Wars 1313 is confirmed UE3 game, knowing this is what LightofDarkness said so hard to believe?

BISHOP-BRASIL4377d ago

@LightofDarkness link

I was completelly unaware of this tech demo and I loved the concept.

Looks like FF meets fictional real world. Mana vs Ak47? Summon vs Biowepon Hyena? Simply loved it!

Wouldn't in anyway call such game Final Fantasy per se, but the concept is great, would be totally happy to give my money to SquareEnix once again.

Spydiggity4376d ago

I still don't understand how, as a gamer (i assume), you can still be fooled by cut scenes. makes no sense. "real-time" doesn't mean that's how the game looks in action. it just means the cut scene was created with the same tools.

i can guarantee the game won't look like that.

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FrigidDARKNESS4377d ago

Watch Dogs demo was running on a hi end PC that's why it looked so next gen.

PersonMan4377d ago

If you're talking about Watch Dogs, it was NOT being played on a PS3. For one, that was an xbox 360 controller. For 2, it was plugged into a very high end PC.

Only an idiot would believe that it was done on a console. Look at all the dynamic lights, the reflections, the high resolution textures, the water effects, the rain, the animations, the smooth framerate and not one single hint of screen tear.

WeskerChildReborned4377d ago

My bad, i got confused with a different game.

pwnmaster30004377d ago

I heard reports it was a ps3 controller

STONEY44377d ago (Edited 4377d ago )

The demo was confirmed by several sources to be running on PC.

http://images.4chan.org/v/s...

Eurogamer also said that the press release stated platforms at PC, PS3, and 360.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

aCasualGamer4377d ago

@Personman

I agree, there is no way in hell that presentation was running on PS3/360. The cloth movement on his clothes alone is impossible on current console hardware. Would have been a great conclusion to this gen but i don't believe we'll see that kind of fidelity and attention to detail on current consoles... Apart from Last of Us and Beyond Two Souls.

I just wish more new IP's would've been announced.

modesign4377d ago

http://www.virtualr.net/wp-...

http://farm8.staticflickr.c...

GT5 on ps3, watchdogs can sure as hell handle the ps3's technology, i dont know how the 360 will be able to handle it with 3 core and a dvd9,(alot of disks, you will need to switch discs between districts).

to the changes in clothing and texture, Uncharted had interactive clothing, dirt, dust, water, grass, snow, etc. so yeah theres alot of games that have elemental changes in clothing.

tokugawa4377d ago

modesign ... rofl

the ps3 is a good console, but watch dogs looking like that will definately not be on the ps3. if it comes at all to this gens consoles, it will be looking alot worse than that.

i just hope ubi hold this off and use it as a launch title

BISHOP-BRASIL4377d ago

@pwnmaster3000

I heard the same, but it appears the controller had colored buttons, so it not likely. In anyway, both PS3 and 360 controllers (not to mention almost any other controller) can be used in PC and, considering the visual quality and past development/presentation of almost all multiplatform games, I'm pretty sure it's running on PC.

@modesign

As good as GT5 looks, it doesn't have to deal with multiple NPCs, heavy car traffic, all those multiple animation and AI... It's a racing game, GT5's engine may excel on car physics and graphics, maybe even pilot AI, but it doesn't mean it could handle such a diversified and open game with that visuals.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure both PS3 and 360 can handle Watch Dogs, just not at those graphical setting.

@tokugawa

Sure the graphical quality may point at next-gen for consoles, but it wouldn't be the first time we see some trailer with really high settings that don't represent the final game... So I wouldn't assume it's next-gen material based on graphics alone.

More importantly, it seens that Ubi have been working on this game for some time now, I don't think any third party dev have next gen development kits just yet.

And even if they are aiming for next gen (that we won't see any earlier than late 2013), there's no reason to ignore the big user base of current gen consoles and risk it all on next gen early adopters and PC gamers when you can cover all bases.

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TheBigShamona4377d ago

The watch dogs demo was running on a ps3 the whole time lmao why do people say It's so next gen? Watch the demo again and youll see the controller.

MysticStrummer4377d ago

It wasn't running on a console at all, and that wasn't a PS3 controller. It was running on a high end PC, and a 360 controller was used.

Campy da Camper4377d ago

Er, it was on a pc using nvida and the controller was just that, a controller. I love my ps3 but if u think it is capable if that much dynamic lighting, rain physics and no pop in your ps3 has triple the cell power mine does.

TheBigShamona4377d ago

nvm its a black 360 plugged into PC oh well =/ i still think next gen can do ALOT better then this

lzim4377d ago

Unless I'm confusing the game Guillemot said it was running on PC.

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Rubberlegs4377d ago (Edited 4377d ago )

Even though its coming to current gen console Far Cry 3 was another game running on the PC and it looked great. The engine that Far Cry 3 runs on is a modified version of the CryEngine 3. Most of Ubisoft's stage demos were being played off of a PC.

They are using a controller for the demos because they aren't going to bust out a keyboard and mouse.

BlackKnight4377d ago (Edited 4377d ago )

Actually Farcry 3 is running on Dunia Engine 2. Not Cryengine 3. Crytek only did Farcry 1. Farcry 2 had an Ubisoft engine made for Farcry 2 called Dunia which is a heavily modifed Cryengine 1 (Not even cryengine 2, which was used for the PC version of Crysis 1 and other PC games).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
http://venturebeat.com/2012...

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milohighclub4377d ago

6 secret next gen games.....everyone of them were shown and one isn't even a game. Lol.

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Fyflin4377d ago

Interesting. I personally wouldn't have included Wonder Book, if anything that tech has been tried before.

Definitely interested in getting a glimpse of next gen with Watch Dogs and 1313. At least when next gen kicks off the games will look incredible out of the gate, the tech and game engines are already here waiting on hardware.

v0rt3x4377d ago

I doubt 1313 is actually next gen - I worked on Star Wars Force Unleashed 2 - and the first level looked similar from a graphic point of view.

It could easily be PS3 / X360.

sjaakiejj4377d ago

Lol I think you should watch that level again. It's miles ahead of what Force Unleashed 2 did.

modesign4377d ago

yeah, i worked on star wars force unleashed 2 also. *wink**wink*

KUV19774377d ago

It's kind of impossible that you two worked on TFUII since I created it completely by myself. I guess if I had got a second guy on board for development it could have been better, but well.. next time..

andibandit4376d ago

@V0rt3x

I worked on Star Wars Force Unleashed 2 too, and i remember firing you day 1.

v0rt3x4376d ago

Say what you will. It's funny no one has done their research and is automatically assuming I'm making this up. Anyway - do some research on the TFU2 engine and you'll see that when it first got released to the public everyone was hyped about how photorealistic it looked. The engine's capability later got drowned in the discussion of how bad the actual game was. But all I'm saying is that 1313 can well be running on current gen.

xchamp4376d ago

Hes not lying, he actually worked on Force Unleashed 2 as a QA Game Tester...

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Sony shares big new PS Plus stat, but not the one we want to see

PlayStation Plus has improved the split of PS4 and PS5 players on its priciest tiers, but Sony continues to hide total subscriber numbers.

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mandf11h ago

lol acting like it’s equivalent to ms numbers

Mr Logic11h ago

Uh...They're definitely not equivalent.

"Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass service now has 34 million subscribers."

"the total number of PS Plus subscribers across all tiers was 47.4 million"

darthv7210h ago(Edited 10h ago)

That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN.

bloop7h ago

That's not the "gotcha" you think it is Darth.

darthv726h ago

^^it's not supposed to be bloop.... it's just an interesting observation.

Einhander19724h ago

darthv72

"That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN."

Have you ever heard of a PC before? I hear they are pretty popular.

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shinoff21839h ago(Edited 9h ago)

What. Definitely more os plus subscribers but that makes sense due to actual console sales

Darth the difference between the bases are huge your right but you gotta think. Ps players buy more games, where as the Xbox base relies on gamepass for their gaming. So it makes perfect sense

darthv729h ago(Edited 9h ago)

What makes perfect sense though? You say PS players buy more games... so then logically there should be more PS+ subscribers given the increased number of online multiplayer games in the PS4 generation alone. The PS4 was the first time that + was required for online play much like Gold was for 360 users.

Keep in mind we are talking subscribers, not simply XB/PS users. I assume you meant to say offline single player games, which is most likely true as well. That gen also saw a significant increase in games with an online component comparted to the previous gen.

victorMaje9h ago

I for one will be going back to essential at the next renewal. When I feel a game is good & right up my alley, I’ll check trusted reviews & just buy it.

jznrpg7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

I have the top tier until 2028 as they gave me a massive discount for all the years I had left but I’ll most likely go to essential as well. I buy my games but my kids do use the service occasionally. They do prefer to own their games as well since any game can leave the rental service at some point and they don’t like that idea. They mostly use it to demo games then ask me to buy games if they really like it.

RedDevils3h ago

For me, I will cancel it all together but unfortunately I still have it till 2030 lol

meganick7h ago

I would like to see Sony add a fourth tier of PS Plus for people who just want to be able to play games online without any of the perks like monthly games, store discounts, or anything like that, and it should cost $20 annually, $30 maximum. There’s no way I’m paying $80 just to play games online. Even the original $60 fee was too much, and I would often wait for sales to re-up my subscription.

P_Bomb3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Essential is too expensive, I agree. We’ve got one Essential and one Premium sub. Dropping the Premium when it expires.

gamerz23m ago

Just let my subscription lapse for the first time since 2010. Will sub again every now and then for a month or so to access my old ps+ games but for me it's the end of an era.

Garethvk1d 11h ago

We can hope. Especially if the rumors of Cillian Murphy and Alaska are true.

RaidenBlack1d 9h ago

That'd be too good if true.
But Henderson also leaked that next Far Cry setting was targeting some asian island.

jznrpg7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

With their shitty practices I really don’t care what Ubisoft announces until they reverse their course

Relientk771d 12h ago

Assassin's Creed Hexe is what I wanna hear about most. Yes I wanna play as a witch with magic during the 16 century witch trials in Germany (as per rumors). Sign me up

Huey_My_D_Long1d 11h ago

Yeah, Hex sounds amazing to me as well, and I've been playing since AC 1. I'm real curious how are they gonna fit the magic into the game, maybe in similar way the dlc introduced gods and god abilities. but I love that I've heard its gonna have a horror vibe.

Garethvk1d 11h ago

Hopefully it is full of good stuff.

Garethvk1d 11h ago

I would love The Division 3.

RaidenBlack1d 9h ago

The studio just completed Avatar and busy with Outlaws and also got their F2P Heartland cancelled ... IMO, Division 3 will surely come but it'll take more time.
I'd be most thrilled if Ubisoft greenlits a sequel or at least a remake of the studio's first game i.e World in Conflict

anast1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

I would get hyped about Hexe. If the rumors are true, UBI might get a gold edition purchase out of me.

Demetrius1d 11h ago

Hopefully gameplay of ac shadows or star wars outlaws, if they finally announce the new far cry I'm definitely getting that, far cry still fun af and gorgeous games, yeah ubisoft has their faults but atleast they're not copying souls like games their titles still have identity

neutralgamer19921d 9h ago

We will definitely see gameplay for star wars and AC. Farcry let's see

OtterX1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I'm going to be an outlier amongst the rest of these comments.... give us something NEW! I'm pretty burnt out on Ubisoft franchises, unless you're giving us a new Rayman game!

*Edit - imagine what they could do with a Rayman 3D game in this day and age. I say now is the time to revisit the series.

RaidenBlack1d 9h ago

Would love a AAA PoP too or a back to roots Ghost Recon (none of the open world stuff)

MeatyUrologist1d 8h ago

Hell yes! Ghost recon in the style of the originals with real consequences, permanent and all!

jznrpg7h ago

I love Rayman, played it a ton with my kids years ago. But Ubisoft puts dumb crap in their games. MTs , paid tiers , always online requirement for single player games and as they stand now I could see them doing that to Rayman

OtterX7h ago

Yea unfortunately, you're right. :'(

Garethvk1d 11h ago

Beyond Good and Evil 2: It is coming really; we promise.

OtterX1d 11h ago

Their microtransaction monetization scheme on it will lie somewhere between good and evil!

Haha JK.... it'll be completely evil. 🙃

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Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff21832d ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

MrNinosan1d 22h ago

Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".

Cacabunga1d 21h ago

Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.

--Onilink--1d 23h ago

The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC1d 23h ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

--Onilink--1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

@Versus

They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.

They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)

PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.

But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation

All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective

porkChop1d 19h ago

It's for the whole generation, so it would likely be including PC. They also make much more profit on digital sales vs retail, and digital is far more prominent these days. The generation also started at the height of COVID when everyone was home, spending far more money on gaming/hobbies. It makes a lot of sense for this gen to be more profitable.

Abnor_Mal2d ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto1d 23h ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman1d 22h ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

repsahj2d ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

JackBNimble1d 5h ago

That happens when half of your games are cross platform. I'm still waiting to see what the ps5 is capable of, because they sure haven't pushed any limits.

And where are all these ps5 exclusive games?

sagapo1d 23h ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

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