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Remedy Wants to Make an Alan Wake Sequel, Microsoft Undecided

Gamespy: Finland-based developer Remedy, creator of Alan Wake, has been talking about a sequel for the psychological thriller since the Xbox 360 exclusive launched in May. But publisher Microsoft, which holds an option on a sequel, is taking a wait-and-see approach.

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-Alpha5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

Was it the sales? It was probably the sales. It wasn't that strong if I'm not mistaken. Hell, where were the advertisements?

MS needs a game like Alan Wake simply because it has some sort of variety in comparison to the stereotypical image of the 360 being a shooter console. It's a good way to promote "games for everyone".

And like any other game a sequel is a great way to grow even bigger and better. MS should give them the chance. I mean, without ICO we wouldn't have Shadow of the Colossus, so to speak. I hope MS wouldn't kill the game simply because it's not profiting as much as they wanted it to. I understand it's a business, but having more games doesn't hurt the image. In comparison Sony's ethic has been much more embracing from what I've heard (from guys like Insomniac and David Jaffe). MS really needs to do it for the good of the gamers but if the profits aren't there I won't be surprised if MS turns their backs. Is it possible for AW2 to come to PS3?

jaredhart5091d ago

Yeah, definitely.

Alan Wake's sales were a great dissapointment for Microsoft.

MitchGE5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

Hopefully in the next year the sales will pick up. I would love to see an Alan Wake 2, so long as the story progression is natural and not forced.

Honestly, for a game that is truly 360 exclusive - not even on PC - disappointing sales is hard to believe, especially with how great it turned out to be and the 360's install base. I guess most 360 owners are teenagers looking to play overrated online games like MW2 and talk trash rather than play an engrossing and memorable game with rich storytelling and immersive atmosphere. Not to mention that impressive DLC is planned and the game promotes a second play by offering manuscript pages exclusively to the hardest difficulty, so it's definitely a buy, not a rent.

@ Alpha-Male22: I believe Microsoft owns the Alan Wake IP. Much like Ninja Theory and Heavenly Sword; it didn't sell that well on PS3, yet they can't bring the IP to 360 because Sony owns it. Remedy could certainly create a new IP multiplatform, again much like Ninja Theory and Enslaved.

PopEmUp5091d ago

if it not a shooter it won't sell :P

Arnon5091d ago

It really is a shame. Alan Wake is one of the best 360 titles out there. It's original, and it has a great story to it with intense gameplay. It would honestly be a complete letdown if Microsoft doesn't go through with an Alan Wake 2, because of their own faults.

captain-obvious5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

it'll be really bad if MS didn't support this game
well Remedy you still can bring it to the PS3 and PC if you want to

why the hell did I get Disagrees ???
this game has been in the work for almost 6 years
do you PPL know how much dose that cost ???
here is a hint ..... A LOT
and I don't see why would Remedy stick to one platform and make a small amount of money and on top of that having NO support instead of making it multiplatform and make as much money as possible out of it

Iamback5091d ago

rememdy should come and work for Sony, at least they will get support.

secksi-killer5091d ago

they have the engine already done, so they can now concentrate more on the gameplay...this time they can perhaps make it open-world.

but, for me, alan wake did not live upto the expectations. i found it tedious, and i still havent finished it yet. and in all honesty, i dont know when i will!

shoddy5091d ago

Even an awsome game like ME2 doesn't sell to MS standard of the aaa title.

blue7xx75090d ago (Edited 5090d ago )

Well maybe they should have advertised the game and it would have sold better. They hardly supported it as far as marketing goes. They made some youtube viral videos but that was pretty worthless.

Why don't they just go ahead and make it multiplatform if Microsoft doesn't care. Do they own the IP?? It's one of the best games I have played this gen and would love a sequel.

Almost 500,000 is not bad for a new IP for only a little over a month is not bad it should sell 1 million eventually. Xbox 360 owners really need to start trying out other genres besides FPS.

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chidori6665091d ago

yep... the sales is very poor for game of 4 years of production...

DatNJDom815091d ago

They had to go back and change the whole game for 360.

GWAVE5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

Just add some colorful Kinect minigames and Microsoft will be all over it.

Here's the difference between Microsoft and Sony: Sony puts out a game because they want to impact the gaming industry. If it sells 500,000 (which is what Alan Wake has sold), that's great. Anything beyond that is gravy. On the other hand, Microsoft only wants 4+ million sellers or it's not worth it.

-Alpha5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

I think I have to agree with you. It's all a business, but Sony seems much more tolerant and they seem to have a very good ethic when it comes to the industry that MS needs to adopt. I'm sad to hear MS would be so skeptical of AW2. To be fair I don't know for certain if it's because of the sales, but regardless Sony has always had a very good outlook when it comes to putting out games in the interest of gamers.

NecrumSlavery5091d ago

That's funny, but if Kinect was actually integrated in Core games I think sales would be better.

facelike5091d ago

I consider this more of a decision from Microsoft to support more Wii like games and casual players. If we continue to see only casual stuff from MIcrosoft, then that's a major sign they are giving up on core gamers. And the sales for it didn't help when it didn't push Gears/Halo numbers.

Gears, Halo and Fable are good franchises but they shouldn't run them into the ground by releasing another Halo every year. They shouldn't expect the hardcore to except it, unless they think we're stupid.

Spydiggity5091d ago

You shouldn't completely blame MS. and if you really want to say that MS only cares about sales, and you want a sequel, then buy the game. let MS know you want another one. Tell your friends about it.

I think MS knows alan wake is a good IP, and it was def their fault for allowing it to launch in the wake of RDR (no pun intended), i highly doubt they'll let it fade into obscurity.

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dangert125091d ago

2bh i never seen alan wake advertised anywhere ms could of done alot better

zireno5091d ago

Like alpha said, is it possible for alan wake or a game from that developer to come to ps3? I'm just curious

garos825091d ago

if im not mistaken remedy is not a first party studio so its very likely it could happen. not sure if the ip is owned by microsoft

Motion5091d ago

Yeah, but other than Halo and maybe a few others, what games do you really see advertised?

ProjectVulcan5091d ago

Should have kept the Pc version.....

cobraagent5091d ago

Look at the success of Little Big Planet and Heavy rain. Remedy will definetely bring AW2 to PS3 or at least to PC

nycredude5091d ago

Bring it to the PS3 if they want better sales. This type of game has a bigger Audience there.

TheTwelve5091d ago

Microsoft is never "undecided" about a game that sells well.

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biggame9015091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

It seems likely that it was due to sales, as they haven't exactly been very strong. However, there was also virtually no advertsing or any push for the game by Microsoft, so they didn't appear to give a lot of support to the title.

But like alpha, I also think that Microsoft needs these type of games to end the stigmata that the 360 is a console only for shooters. It does appear Sony is more open towards games, otherwise Team ICO, who had very low sales for ICO, would not have existed after that.

As for Alan Wake 2 going to the PS3, that depends on if Microsoft owns the IP. If they don't, then it is something that Remedy will strongly consider.

Boody-Bandit5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

That's a very valid point now that you mentioned it. I don't recall seeing one commercial for Alan Wake.

Al Bundy5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

So did Heavy Rain but it still sold over 1 million quickly. Mass Effect 2 has yet to hit over 1 million on the Xbox without PC sales and it was heavily advertised. Face it, Xbox owners only buy shooters.

nycredude5091d ago

Is that true that MAss Effect 2 hasn't reached 1,000,000 sales on 360? That is lame man. One of the best games this year! I bought it on my 360 and then pc when Steam had a $23 sale. Great game.

Boody-Bandit5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

wrong spot.
Still not use to this update at times.

emk20045091d ago

i think ms owns the ip so i would rule ps3 out but a pc port would do them good.

JumpNPlayBon5091d ago

Of course it was the sales or lack thereof. This is why MS has so many haters, because they don't care about what's good for gamers or what gamers want, it's ALL about sales with them.

Just because it's a business doesn't mean you can't give gamers what they want and still make a nice profit, but they don't see it that way.

A nice profit isn't good enough for MS, which is why they are seen as greedy bastards.

poopface15090d ago (Edited 5090d ago )

Noone has seen the REAL SALES from north america AKA NPD YET. People are going of BS made up VG chartz numbers.

the may NPD has been delayed till early july, so we will see then.

I dont think the sales were amazing or anything, but I do think that it probably did better than VG charts said it did.

Either way I hope for AW 2 as I really liked AW.

tinybigman5090d ago

Microsoft show some damn balls for a change and greenlight a sequel for this game. if Sony can do a sequel to Ico which sold like 50k copies you can damn well ok a sequel to this game.

this is what pisses me off about M$.

otherZinc5090d ago

I cant wait for a sequel. The only game better this year is Mass Effect 2 to this point in my opinion.

I'll pre-order Alan Wake 2 as soon as it appears on GameStops sheet.

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chidori6665091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

i hope MS droped this game.

I just didn't like this game, honestly,this game is boring. this game could possibly be the most boring game i have ever played. the long walks through the forest and repetive enemy jumps out and kill. the gameplay was VERY boring..

Ps Alan wake is pretty much a total copy off the ORIGANL alone in the dark

saint_john_paul_ii5091d ago

thats what happens when you gimp it.

this game was suppose to be an open world thriller in the first place for both the 360 and the PC.

SupaGamer5091d ago

Alan Wake is a really good game. Sure it has flaws but the atmosphere and style was something to be experienced.

You can blame Microsoft for not advertizing but you also have to blame 360 owners for living up to their "FPS only" stereotype.

redDevil875091d ago

Still can't believe the lack of support MS gave this game. They should have spent more money promoting this game rather than MW2 IMO.

dredgewalker5091d ago

Cause MS knew MW2 would generate a lot of money, and they were right about that in a bad way.

mcgrawgamer5091d ago

I was very excited for Alan Wake but I'm holding out hope for a PC version even if it's *gulp* GFWL....

cobraagent5091d ago (Edited 5091d ago )

after the success of Heavy Rain(it sold more than a million while Alan Wake is not even half way there) i suggest you to turn to Sony

hankmoody5091d ago

The fact that a "niche" title like Heavy Rain selling so well on the PS3 doesn't hint at anything in regards to the overall catalog of titles available on that system? It does to me.

PirateThom5090d ago

Yes, it does. On a console with Uncharted 2, God of War III and a load of other top tier titles, over a million people still went out and picked up a neich point and click-esque adventure game

It hints that PS3 owners are willing to buy games that may not be SHOOTAN SPACE MARINES and actually give different genres a chance.

emk20045091d ago

why people compare heavy rain and alan wake? the dont play anything alike or even close to story types. the only thing they have in common is that they both are single player games.

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10 Biggest Xbox Mistakes of All Time (So Far)

The Xbox brand has done a lot of good over the years, but their various blunders are pretty wild to look back on in their magnitude.

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piroh8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Ironically number 9 can save them at this point (releasing games on multiple platforms)

ChasterMies6d ago

By “save them” you mean make more profit for Microsoft. Xbox will still be a dying hardware platform.

OtterX7d ago

You could add the naming scheme for the consoles, it just confuses customers. I know they wanted to avoid traditional numbering bc it would always be lower than their competitor, but this whole 360 then One then Series thing is confusing af. Imagine a Soccer Mom trying to figure this stuff out. I still mistakenly call the Series X the One from time to time on accident.

RNTody7d ago

Don't forget about the Xbox One, Xbox One X and Xbox Series X! Good luck to Soccer moms around the world.

S2Killinit6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

They did that on purpose to confuse and direct attention away from the generational numbering.

MS doesn’t like reminding people that they joined the industry after others had already been involved in gaming.

For instance, they called the xbox “360” to combat PlayStation “3” because they wanted to seem like “more” than “3”, so instead of xbox 2, they opted for xbox 360. Also this had the additional benefit of selling consoles to uninformed parents who might purchase a “360” instead of a “3” by mistake, or because they thought 360 was more than 3. Kind of a disingenuous move.

They have been continuing with their confusing naming patterns for pretty much the same reasons. Frankly, it fits with who and what they are as a brand.

FinalFantasyFanatic6d ago

I can understand their reasoning, but whoever came up with that naming scheme should be fired, bad naming schemes have killed consoles (I'm pretty sure it was the major reason for the downfall of the WiiU). They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo and Sega have had for their consoles, far less confusing for the consumer.

rob-GP2d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic "They should have had unqiue names like Nintendo..."

lol, you mean:

NES, SNES
GameBoy, GameBoy Advanced, GameBoy Colour, GameBoy SP
DS, DSi, DSXL
3DS, 3DS XL, New 3DS, New 3DS XL
Wii, Wii U
Switch, Switch OLED

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Cacabunga7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Phil Spencer is the worst that has happened to Xbox.
They built a respectable brand up to Xbox one. Then this guy took over and things became a joke

Reaper22_7d ago

He still has his job. Something you can't say about Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga7d ago

Both bad execs. One is on job and one thankfully retired.

FinalFantasyFanatic6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I didn't like either person, both people damaged their respective brands and produced worse outcomes, but Phil did save the Xbox brand from being retired by Microsoft. Although in hindsight, he should have just let it die, rather than languish in limbo like it is now.

Rainbowcookie5d ago

Yeah but the one that was "bad" didn't even affect sales.

bunt-custardly6d ago

Phil Spencer was also on the team back when 360 was around, alongside Shane Kim, Peter Moore etc. I think the damage that did the most harm was the Don Mattrick "Always Online" console (ahead of its time basically). They handed Sony and Nintendo a free-pass when that was revealed. It went downhill from there. Then the corporate machine went into full swing to try and recover. They have to a degree as a games company for the masses, and less so for the core gamer. Outside USA, the Xbox brand does not sell as well as Japanese based consoles (citation needed).

Cacabunga6d ago

Want a decision maker. The always online and TV plans was a disaster yes, but they caught up by announcing 1st party games that gamers actually kept the hype going.. until this moron took over and introduced the PC day one release.. e all know where that ended..

S2Killinit6d ago

I dont think they were ever a respectable brand, not since the beginning, when their goal was never to be involved and share in the gaming space. I think the OG xbox was an exception because MS as a brand was still getting its foot in and so the people behind that were people of the gaming industry.

FinalFantasyFanatic6d ago

The 360 was the brand in its prime though, everything went downhill towards the end of that generation. Its staple games like Halo, Forza and Gears are what kept the console relevant and afloat for so long.

MaximusPrime_7d ago

Really good video.

I remember the days with RRoD was big news on here, N4G.

Microsoft had it turbulence number of years.

Looking at the success of Sea of Thieves despite being 6 years old, time to release Halo, Forza horizon 4 & 5 on PS5. It'll help their revenue

shinoff21837d ago (Edited 7d ago )

2 of the 4 games they did already sold really well. So it's definitely going down. Idk about halo or forza but I feel those studios they've bought in the last 5 years, their coming

ChasterMies6d ago

I found this video painful to watch. Can someone list them out?

Top 10 for me from are:
1. 2013 reveal presentation
2. Bundling Kinect 2 with Xbox One
3. RRoD or why rushing to market with hardware is always a bad idea.
4. Buying studios only to close them.
5. Ads on the Home Screen
6. Letting Halo die.
7. Letting Geard of War die.
8. Every console name
9. Charging for Xbox Live on Xbox 360 when Sony let PS3 players play online for free.
10. Cancelling release of OG Xbox games after the Xbox 360 launched.

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Microsoft to Add Copilot AI to Video Games

Microsoft recently revealed its plans to incorporate Copilot directly into video games, with Minecraft being the first showcased example.

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Fishy Fingers11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

F*** AI

"Hey Copilot, what's a good meme to prove I dislike AI".... https://giphy.com/clips/sou...

Einhander197211d ago

Two trillion dollar company that just can't wait to put as many people possible out of work as fast as possible.

It feels like every single thing they do is making gaming worse and destroying the industry.

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darthv7210d ago

....you know it takes people to program the AI.... right? It isnt like it is sentient. We haven't reach skynet level of situation or anywhere close to the matrix just yet.

That's next Thursday.

Einhander197210d ago (Edited 10d ago )

It takes a people to program the AI then that AI is used for who knows how many games eliminating countless jobs which only grows as AI is used for more and more game creation functions.

What you're saying is so ridiculously short sighted and truly larking any kind of understanding and foresight.

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CaptainFaisal11d ago

Why all the hate? Im actually excited about this! Always wanted this kind of immersion, and an AI companion with me all the time helping me out knowing the status of my skills/inventory/progress and giving me tips on the best approach or how to craft something specific is game changing for the industry.

Hate all you want about AI, but this is just the start and I can see the potential already. You wont be complaining in the next 5-10 years about this, but rather complain if a game hasn’t implemented it.

MrDead11d ago

Yes we can't wait for the work of others to be used without the need to pay them so that MS can profit even more from the people they fire.

I_am_Batman11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

There is no chance I'd ever use something like this, especially if it's not part of the core game design, but a layer on top of it. It's way too much handholding. Many games already feel like busy work, because they don't let the player figure things out on their own. Having a real-time interactive guide defeats the purpose of playing the game in the first place in my opinion.

If this were to become the standard like you predict, we'll see more and more video games get away with bad design, because people will just be used to ask for help from the AI companion anyway.

Number1TailzFan11d ago

Well Nintendo don't need this with some of their games these days, with invincible characters, items, easy bosses etc.. they do the hand holding built in

helicoptergirl11d ago

Takes "hand holding" in games to a whole new level.

BlackDoomAx9d ago

Because human nature xD Almost every new technology had these kind of comments.

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No Steam And Physical Release, Alan Wake 2 Not Profiting Was Inevitable

Choosing Epic over Steam and antagonizing the entire physical media fanbase, it's no wonder the masterpiece Alan Wake 2 didn't make a profit.

thorstein15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

I asked for this game as a gift. My wife couldn't find it at Gamestop, Amazon, or anywhere else.

I didn't realize it was digital only, I just figured it sold out because of the reviews and how good it looks.

Most consumers don't read gaming news daily, how would they know it's digital only?

Plus, outside of seeing it on Jackfrags YouTube channel, I hadn't seen much in the way of marketing.

Dirtnapstor14d ago

It's a really good game. I platted this one on the PS5. Well worth your time exploring this universe.

Jingsing15d ago

Unfortunately Remedy has become a bit of a nasty studio over this past decade, You just need to look at their business decisions and other projects they attempted. They are not pro consumer at all.

Petebloodyonion15d ago

You know that it's Epic Games that funded and published the game right?

CrimsonWing6915d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Yea, people are kind of dumb. I mean, no offense to @Jingsing up there, I know that’s blunt but it reminds me of Bayonetta 2 when that got announced and it was a Nintendo exclusive. It’s exclusive because f*cking Nintendo funded the development. But people were all like f*ck Sega for sh*tting on their fans when in actuality the game never would’ve gotten made if Nintendo didn’t straight up pay for the development.

Alan Wake 1 was not a massive seller. In fact, correct me if I’m wrong, but it underperformed and that’s why a proper sequel never got made until now where Epic literally paid for the game to be developed… but you got people saying, Remedy isn’t pro consumer because this game is Epic exclusive 🤦‍♂️

anast15d ago

They did this to save money, but it didn't work.

Skuletor15d ago

Will be interesting to see if they try the same thing for the Max Payne remake(s). You'd think they won't but people continue to surprise me.

anast15d ago

I think they could do some kind of special edition physical release. This way the crowd that has been with this game since the beginning would have the option to buy a physical disk. They would sell more too.

Charlieboy33315d ago

@anast No, it needs a normal physical release.....not some bullshit 'special edition' physical release. This way we will be able to easily get a physical copy for if we want, instead of having to mission to own some kind of limited version. That's not actually gonna boost physical sales now is it?

Chocoburger15d ago

I wonder if they've learned their lesson? Who am I kidding, of course no gaming company does at this point. Keep making those mistakes.

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