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Hellblade 2 seemingly set to release soon as Phil Spencer teases "We don't have much longer to wait"

The Xbox boss has praised developer Ninja Theory and says he "loves how the game is coming together".

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PrinceOfAnger168d ago

2024
Will be amazing year for PC

Hellblade 2
Stalker 2
Flight sim 24
Avowed
horizon forbidden west
Clockwork Revolution
If only CIG release Squadron 42 soon

Last year was good too with
Hi fi rush
starfield
Forza
Last of us remake.

MrNinosan167d ago

And probably FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth as well

BehindTheRows166d ago

Rebirth would be at least a year, so no.

XVI, most likely, but until late in the year.

S2Killinit167d ago (Edited 167d ago )

you’re missing some games, there

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Lightning77167d ago

Exec says they're excited for said game does nothing for me, but bring it I say. It's been ages since they had games that's story driven focus and this game has been in the pipeline for 4 years.

Let's see it already.

Crows90167d ago

Phil likes to talk big about games he has little to do with...and when theyve got a decent game he just shadow drops it assuming its not that good...hi fi rush is a prime example.

He talked really well about starfield and was surprised about redfall....before throwing the dev team under the bus of course.

Obscure_Observer167d ago

@Crows90

"Phil likes to talk big about games he has little to do with..."

Phil has a 100% Hellblade completion, he´s not a clueless gamer talking out of his a$$ like you do. He loves that game and Senua was one of the very reasons he acquired Ninja Theory in the first place.

He was the one who saw that team´s potential, he was the one who approach them with an offer to become an Xbox first party studio, by turning a small studio formerly made of 20 people into an full blown AAA Studio made of about 200 people.

Phil is the one who made sure tand put Senua into the spotlight since the Xbox Series X reveal.

She is the current Xbox generation poster girl! Not Master Chief, not Marcus Fenix, not Kait, and definitely not some weird Minecraft character.

You may hate the guy. But give credit when credit is due.

Ninja Theory have a history as a Playstation second party studio and yet SIE never cared about them enough to make them part of the Playstation family! You, as a Playstation fan, should be mad at Sony for letting Ninja Theory slip through their f* fingers!

If we were dependent on Sony, Hellblade II woudn´t ever exist.

"He talked really well about starfield and was surprised about redfall....before throwing the dev team under the bus of course."

Starfield is a great game which sits at 83 Metascore, which is higher than some of Playstation first party games that you praise to the heavens, so spare us from your hypocrisy.

After Redfall´s massive flop at launch, Phil not only allowed the team to continue and fix their mess in the game, but greenlit a new AAA game from Arkane Austin which is already in development.

Sony on the other hand, shut down Pixel Opus which were working on an unannounced PS5 AAA game in collaboration with Sony Pictures Animation since 2021 after Concret Genie.

Talk about "throwing the dev team under the bus"

But hey, feel free do defend and sugar coat Sony on their greedy bs, by cutting off creative studios to favor and pursue some GaaS nonsense!

Crows90167d ago

@obscure

Aside from you pathetic insults..grow up.

"You may hate the guy. But give credit when credit is due."
I give credit to the playstation base which made the game successful. I completed the game as well. Didnt 100% only because I missed a couple of runes or whatever those lore points were. It is a one and done game like most single player games so I ddint bother...especially with the lackluster combat.

I also give credit to Playstation for Heavenly Sword which really put their style in the spotlight. Those monologues come from that playstation exclusive so yeah...definitely not avoiding giving credit.

If Hellblade 2 isnt successful I'll make sure to credit Phil...and random stats wont cut it.

"You, as a Playstation fan, should be mad at Sony for letting Ninja Theory slip through their f* fingers!"
Nope. Im not you. No reason to be mad. I wasnt bothered by MS purchase of Ninja Theory. they can buy all they want..its bad for the industry though and im worried for the survival of those devs more than anything.

But I've no doubt youre as ignorant as you sound. Im a gamer that plays mostly on PC nowadays. Im a good games fan...which is why I dont fall for MS average games like fanboys as yourself do.

"Starfield is a great game which sits at 83 Metascore, which is higher than some of Playstation first party games that you praise to the heavens, so spare us from your hypocrisy."

Which game do I praise to the high heavens? Stop making things up. Im currently praising remnant 2 a lot but thats not 1st party. And im playing that on steam.

"But hey, feel free do defend and sugar coat Sony on their greedy bs, by cutting off creative studios to favor and pursue some GaaS nonsense!"

What GaaS game has sony released? I mustve missed it.

As far as PixelOpus...Do I have some kind of loyalty to these guys? Did sony say that their vision sucked and was bad? No.

Phil said some crappy things about arkane though to deflect from his poor ass leadership...so yeah. Thats the problem and thats why im concerned with all the other perfectly fine studios making games that were more successful on playstation than on xbox.

"If we were dependent on Sony, Hellblade II woudn´t ever exist."
The very definition of talking out of your A$$

S2Killinit167d ago

At this point with MS, they need to put out or shut up.

Lightning77166d ago

Hi Fi Rush is not example of anything. The shadow drop was done by the studios head because it viral internally. HB2 happened because MS bought NT. No MS didn't make the IP of Hellblade but they're fully funding the sequel which is what a publisher is suppose to do right?

I have no clue where u got your info from.

Obscure_Observer166d ago

"I give credit to the playstation base which made the game successful"

BS!

Hellblade is a multi platform game beloved across all platforms including Xbox, PC and Nintendo! So gtfo with your lying bs, because if there´s someone hating on that game now that it´s an Xbox first party IP is the PS fanboys! Just look at the comments, it´s mostly PS fanboys like yourself calling that game mediocre, lackluster and nothing special, while pretending that they don´t understand the hype surrounding Hellblade II.

Bunch of hypocrites pretending to love story driven single player games when in reality they hate it if those aren´t on Playstation!

"I also give credit to Playstation for Heavenly Sword which really put their style in the spotlight."

Another IP which Sony didn´t gave a f*! Wheres the sequel?! Congratulations I guess?

"If Hellblade 2 isnt successful I'll make sure to credit Phil...and random stats wont cut it."

Get a grip in reality, dude. Your opinion means nothing and nobody gives a flying f* about what PS fanboys think about Phil and Xbox first party games.

"I wasnt bothered by MS purchase of Ninja Theory. they can buy all they want..its bad for the industry though and im worried for the survival of those devs more than anything."

Are you? Both RARE and Mojang has been active as Xbox first studios for longer than they previously had as third party independent studios. RARE completed 21 years as an Xbox first party studio while Mojang is about to complete 10 years!

The source of your fake concern is not objectively based on track record, but blind fanboy drivel and hate.

Obscure_Observer166d ago

The source of your fake concern is not objectively based on track record, but blind fanboy drivel and hate.

"But I've no doubt youre as ignorant as you sound. Im a gamer that plays mostly on PC nowadays"

You are a PS fanboy, don´t even try to deny it. Nobody falls for your "I´m PC gamer" crap, dude. The reason you might be playing mostly on PC nowadays is because you actually don´t have many games to play on your preferred platform.

"Im a good games fan...which is why I dont fall for MS average games like fanboys as yourself do."

And yet you´re here. Wasting your time and talking crap about an "average" XBOX GAME! Quit this childish game, dude. You have nothing to be excited about. That´s why you´re all over Xbox games, you´re just sad and boring. Smh.

"Which game do I praise to the high heavens? Stop making things up. Im currently praising remnant 2 a lot but thats not 1st party. And im playing that on steam."

Which sits at 80 at Metacritic while Starfield sits at 83 Metacritic. You can´t make shit up

"What GaaS game has sony released? I mustve missed it."

Don´t worry, they have 11 GaaS games currently in development. You´ll have plenty to play very soon.

"As far as PixelOpus...Do I have some kind of loyalty to these guys? Did sony say that their vision sucked and was bad? No."

Actions speaks louder. Pixel Opus got the Axe in the middle of development of a PS5 AAA game! Sony did´t even bother to gave that studio a public message and thanking them for all of their passionated work and love for creativity. They quietly shut that studio down, and when IGN reached SIE to talk about it, that what Sony said:

“PlayStation Studios regularly evaluates its portfolio and the status of studio projects to ensure they meet the organization’s short and long-term strategic objectives,” the company told IGN. “As part of a recent review process, it has been decided that PixelOpus will close on June 2.”

Again, zero gratitude and empathy for its developers! That´s the company you love! That how your favorite company treats creative first party developers!

https://kotaku.com/pixelopu...

"The very definition of talking out of your A$$"

Sony couldn´t be bothered and release a Heavenly Sword sequel, why would they even bother with a sequel for Hellblade which used to be a third party IP? Face the damn facts! Sony never gave a damn about Ninja Theory! It is what it is.

Thanks to Phil Spencer Senua fans will live to see a proper sequel to Hellblade. A true current gen AAA game that hopefully will turn out into another masterpiece and win multiple awards, just like the first game.

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Crows90167d ago

Phil loved crackdown 3.

Just saying. Theres no one else other than the xbox boss constantly yammering about how great certain games in the pipeline are...Show dont tell.

Let ninja theory do the talking dude.

PrinceOfAnger167d ago

mark cerny and others loved knack

Crows90167d ago (Edited 167d ago )

Did he? Or did he just like the tech behind it?

I love how you put 'and others' clearly not naming the PlayStation boss. You know the one, like Phil, who is supposed to be responsible for everything their devs make and who gets a pretty good say about the games the their devs make.

ModsDoBetter167d ago

Lol uno reverse. 😂
For what it's worth, I enjoyed Knack.

Einhander1972167d ago (Edited 167d ago )

I have never understood the vitriol towards Knack. It was a family friendly game parents could buy with the PS4 that kids could play that launched with the console. And honestly it had pretty fun gameplay, there was good enemy variety and the art style that was styled like old Japanese cartoons was pretty good.

It's so weird how just because a game is for kids it's seen as bad, not just knack but in general.

The whole thing where every game has to be made just for one demographic is bad for the industry and creativity.

S2Killinit167d ago (Edited 167d ago )

Yeah but phil hyped up games like redfall and starfield to heaven’s end. At least Sony lets their games do the talking.

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Obscure_Observer167d ago

"Did he? Or did he just like the tech behind it?"

Lol!

Mark Cerny is not other but KNACK´s director, genius!

It´s HIS game! XD

Crows90167d ago (Edited 167d ago )

Yes. And of course hes going to "like it" my comment which you quoted mentions what he probably actually liked about it and would gush about at its time. The tech behind it.

But thanks for making @PrinceofAnger look even dumber...A developer of a game liking their game...who woulda thunk.

Point is Phil talks big about games he hasnt made all of the time. Most of them being a disappointment.

Obscure_Observer166d ago

@Crows90

"But thanks for making @PrinceofAnger look even dumber...A developer of a game liking their game...who woulda thunk."

You didn´t even knew that Mark Cerny made that game, dude. And yet, you have the nerve to call people dumb rather than acknowledge your own ignorance . Such "Playstation fan" your are. Smdh.

SimpleSlave167d ago

Ninja Theory's best game was, oddly enough, DMC. Everything else have been mediocre at best. Enslaved could've been great but fell flat and the first Hellblade was laughably bad where it matters, the gampleay.

So they have a shet ton to prove before getting excited about this. Will the gameplay suffer even more now that the graphics have taken a massive presedent? We'll see. But so far, the gameplay they've shown was beyond underwhelming.

This is poised to be another Ryse or The Order 1886; A visual feast and shallow as a puddle. I'll be shocked otherwise.

SimpleSlave167d ago

...ly bad. Yes.

While having impressive technical feats such as the animation and motion capture, and Andy Serkis' scenery chewing performance never fails to be glorious, the game also suffered from bad game design, bad level design and shallow gameplay that felt outdated the moment the game came out. Which made for a pretty but shallow and boring experience.

Oh, and those damn QTE and Slow Motion Projectile Cam sections. The joy... 😐

Sadly, Heavenly Sword is a lineal, shallow, beautiful but ultimately boring game that came and went for good reasons. And while it was mercifully short it also felt too damn long. Like a Demo or Proof of Concept that got out of hands.

Elda166d ago

Clearly your opinion. Imo...Heavenly Sword was a fab game, it's flaw was that the game was too short.

SimpleSlave165d ago

Clearly...or is it? The game has shallow combat, brain dead AI, lineal and bland level design, QTEs and extremely repetitive and boring slow motion sections. While other better games certainly share some of the same traits, they do try to compensate in other aspects at least. Ninja Theory simply thought that pretty graphics and animation, with Ham Serkis, would somehow be enough to do the trick. It didn't.

I think it's ok to like bad stuff. I do. We all do. And there's nothing wrong with that. Just learn to be conscious about it is all I'm saying.

But hey, that's just a Theory...

AdonisIsBeast167d ago

Crazy that some xbox fanatics are excited for this. The franchise is mid at best and they’ve been developing this for over 6 years.

And it’s not even a large RPG with intricate systems or anything of the sort. It’s a linear action adventure game.

__SteakDeck__167d ago

Xbox fanboys for years have thrashed PS exclusives for being “one and done”, linear “interactive movies”, “walking simulators”. They better keep that same energy for this, but we know they won’t. Lol

outsider1624167d ago

The exact words from Sparky was "cookie cutter story driven games" lol.

Lets see what he has to say about Hellblade now..

Prubar167d ago

It’s not that third person character action games are “bad”. It’s that’s all current Sony seems to be interested in making. I found PlayStation was way more interesting during the PS3 era. At least during that time they had multiplayer elements to their games. Now nodda.

Obscure_Observer167d ago

"They better keep that same energy for this, but we know they won’t. Lol"

We won´t.

I love Hellblade and The Last of Us is one of my TOP 3 games of all time. Also, despite Metascore, I also like The Order 1886 a lot and I think Sony is dumb for not giving that franchise another go.

We´re gamers. We welcome all types of games and gaming genres and, fortunately for us, Xbox first party studios got all the gaming genres covered, as it should.

ModsDoBetter167d ago (Edited 167d ago )

That's an interesting flip.

Before Hellblade 2 was announced and Xbox exclusive, all I ever heard was PS and Xbox fans giving the game high praise.

Interesting that it's being downplayed now...

S2Killinit167d ago

They haven’t had anything at all so its understandable that they get excited for anything.

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Hellblade 2 Review Embargo Lifts On Launch Day

The review embargo for Hellblade 2 appears to lift on the same date as the launch of the game, just an hour before it's available.

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blackblades1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Reviews dont usually spoil its usually the players that get it early spoils it

Cacabunga1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Like all other games being reviewed before launch day ?

This game will disappoint many players. Ninja Theory’s last game

Barlos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

A well written review normally won't spoil anything though.

Come on, we all know it's usually not a good sign when the review embargo lifts on launch day. Doesn't mean to say the game is going to be bad or anything, but it does often point to a lack of confidence.

OtterX1d 11h ago

@Cacabunga Microsoft will dismantle Ninja Theory, even if the game reviews well, Bc that's how they roll! 😎

_SilverHawk_1d 10h ago

That's quite strange and early. They should lift review embargo a week after the game launches

Cacabunga1d 10h ago

OtterX

Unfortunately true.
I wish they stayed independant and signed with big publishers to develop some great licences like DMC.
I think Heavenly Sword 2 would def be successful if done right. Same way they can be the Bluepoint Games of action games.

Crows901d 9h ago

Ummm...review embargos have nothing to do with spoilers...if someone gets it early they can still spoil it

romulus231d 5h ago

Games can be reviewed without spoiling.

ThinkThink1d 5h ago

If they didn't provide review copies until launch day, I would agree with you, but reviewers got their review codes this week. Since it's only an 8 hour game, that's plenty of time to have a review ready. I'm taking the studio heads word though, based on yesterday's interview.

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lelo2play1d 12h ago

Reviews on launch day is never a good sign.
If this games fails, goodbye Ninja Theory.

MrBaskerville1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

There has been good games where this happened. I think they did it to Arkanes Prey, which was a very good game. But it shows a lack of interest/faith from the publisher.

With Senua I think it's more that Ms could 't care less about a prestige project like this atm. They have pivoted and only want big hitters, so why put money in supporting Senua? Just throw it out there and move on. It's the last part of their old vision for xbox and no longer relevat. A Phil Spencer game.

Sadly. Game will probably be very good, like the first one.

romulus231d 5h ago

Potentially even if it doesn't fail. HiFi Rush was critically praised by journalists and gamers alike and look what happened to Tango.

PapaBop20h ago

Well they'll be in good company, next Microsoft will have to buy EA for their graveyard building expertise, I'm sure Spencer would only just dig half a grave now, then finish it later.

Ninver20h ago

Even if it does remotely well they're still getting the 🪓 from lumberjack MS.

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DarXyde1d 9h ago

Personally, I think the game will flop commercially. It doesn't really have any visible marketing campaign from what I can tell. It's also clearly got a hefty budget and development cycle. I'm sure this doesn't have a AA budget.

Critically... I'm not sure. I think if it's judged as its own product, it'll be fine. 85+ on metacritic, I'm thinking. But the problems I see this game's score running into are comparisons to the original which touched on some fascinating concepts (and thereby set a high bar already) and the time between announcement and release. Quite some time, and this was the game that introduced the Series X. I think if reviewers and gamers remove themselves from those two things, it's a good game. But my sense is that's going to influence perceptions quite a bit.

MrBaskerville1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Would have been a perfect launch title tbh . The way it showcases the power of xbox.

seanpitt2322h ago

6/10 confirmed.. they are definitely hiding something probably the length and replay value

Bathyj20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

I mean what does it even matter? People aren't going to buy it anyway. They are going to play it on Game pass.

Will they not download it if the reviews don't come out the day of release?

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Tacoboto1d 16h ago

That's not a good sign.

Review codes have been sent out as of 8 hours ago (according to Tom Henderson on X) so at least they aren't withholding those... But you'd think with confidence they'd want positive reviews to get buzz going online the weekend before release.

... But if they're expecting mid reviews, yeah sure lift that embargo when most people are asleep.

Kornholic1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

MS might be withholding review codes from more critical reviewers to inflate the launch window Metascore. Just like they did with Starfield.

Jingsing1d 12h ago

Yeah, They've been doing that for a while. Picking and choosing publications. At the end of the day if you do that then don't be surprised if that taints reviewers attitude towards your game.

helicoptergirl1d 12h ago

This is the first time I'm starting to think that MS may actually want this game to not do well so they can more easily justify closing the studio down? Am I crazy for suddenly thinking that? I mean, no advertising. Review embargo on launch day? This game and studio goes against what Matt Booty has said they will be focusing on going forward in regards to their business.

I know people were speculating and half joking that Ninja Theory "is next". But this is the first time I get that feeling in my stomach. I'm probably thinking too much into it. Anyway, I hope I'm wrong.

MrBaskerville1d 10h ago

Wouldn't go that far, but they must have spent a fortune on it and I can't imagine it being very profitable. I don't think current day MS would greenlight it.

DarXyde1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

More appropriately, it makes more sense to believe they really expected the acquisitions of such major publishers to increase game pass subs with high retention. This doesn't seem to be the case though, and Activision cost an extraordinary penny.

At this point, it's just about turning things around quickly.

However, I don't think you're wrong either. It's not about wanting to close them, per se, and that might be the secret metric for success they haven't disclosed: "Did this new game drive Sub growth by a certain percentage?" In that case, even a very well received game could doom a studio if it doesn't generate enough interest or hype in Game Pass. It's very safe to assume that XGP is very clearly aligned to closures. It's become damn near THE metric for Xbox. So when a game isn't played much or generating subs, studio closes. I think this is extremely problematic for Ninja Theory if true. I can't say I know many people playing through their games more than once and I don't see Hell blade 2 driving user retention either.

TheColbertinator1d 15h ago

Nice. I could speedrun it by midnight and go to sleep after.

Notellin1d 8h ago

It's a walking simulator you can't speed run them. It's a power walking game.

crazyCoconuts1d ago

That's the kinda funny thing about all the concern for the game... It's only like 8 hours... Good or bad a very small portion of my gaming time will be impacted.
If GTA6 got hosed, on the other hand, I'd probably cry lol

Flakegriffin1d 15h ago

Zero marketing and embargo lifts when the game launches?

No confidence from team Xbox.

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XCOM's Jake Solomon Q&A - Building a Narrative-Driven Life Sim Game at Midsummer Studios

XCOM and Marvel's Midnight Suns director Jake Solomon has founded a new studio to make a life sim game. Here's a new interview with him.

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Hellblade 2's Photo Mode Looks Ridiculously Detailed In New Footage

We're another day closer to the release of Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 on May 21st, and that means Ninja Theory is continuing to tease us with new snippets of info and footage - including a closer look at the game's Photo Mode.

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thesoftware7302d ago

I like photo modes. I will find some awesome shots and use them as wallpaper on my SX.

KicksnSnares2d ago

Gears 6 is going to look insane on UE5. The Coalition are UE experts. Hellblade 2 is going to be epic.

P_Bomb2d ago

First game’s photo mode had some sweet filters. Even if they just port those over, I’ll be good!