UPDATE: Pre-order Horizon Forbidden West now: Collector’s and Digital Deluxe Editions detailed

PS Blog: "Thursday was to be a celebration of Horizon Forbidden West and the amazing team at Guerrilla working to deliver it on February 18, 2022. However, it’s abundantly clear that the offerings we confirmed in our pre-order kickoff missed the mark.

Last year we made a commitment to deliver free upgrades for our cross-gen launch titles, which included Horizon Forbidden West. While the pandemic’s profound impact pushed Forbidden West out of the launch window we initially envisioned, we will stand by our offer: Players who purchase Horizon Forbidden West on PlayStation 4 will be able to upgrade to the PlayStation 5 version for free."

[thorstein]

Well, that didn't take long. Nice job sticking to your word.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

It's good that we know that there will be a simple €10/$10 upgrade fee for their other cross gen games going forward (GOW2, GT7).

What I don't fully understand is this: "Players who purchase Horizon Forbidden West on PlayStation 4 will be able to upgrade to the PlayStation 5 version for free."

There's officially a €10 difference in the price between the PS4 and PS5 versions, so ... can we all just buy the PS4 version, get a free upgrade and save a tenner?

[thorstein]

I assume (so I could and probably am wrong) that goes for digital only.

[VersusDMC]

That sounds like that's what they will have to do. They already had the ps4 version for preorder at 60. They can't expect there to not be another backlash if they increase it to 70.

[Gaming4Life1981]

I think you have to actually buy the game on ps4 for it to work. I recently sold my ps4 pro cause I didn't use it and I think if I bought the ps4 version on ps5, the free upgrade will not work.

[arkard]

Yes, you can buy the ps4 version, stick it in your Ps5 and it will play. You might have to check the data install. And make sure you re playing the Ps5 version and not the ps4 but you will get the Ps5 version.

[EvertonFC]

I guess? A bit odd that 🙄

[gravedigger]

@hatchetforce

Copper has nothing to do with production increase. They already mentioned production increase before heatsink design. It is normal through console lifespan to do a revision where they can. Original heatsink was an overkill in design. This one smaller is more effective

[Zjet]

of course you can, always find it amusing how American pricing is so strict though, in my country PS5 games regularly sell for $40-$50 USD instead (and we have tax included because we aren't psychos)

for me I still buy the PS5 version regardless as I want it for media preservation.

[CS7]

Kudos for the change. Good job Sony.

This is why we should voice our concerns and not blindly agree to everything.

(Let’s hope the nickle and dime decision makers who made the first call aren’t making other similar decisions)

[Aussiesummer]

Well we are agreeing to it for future titles, we've agreed to there about "we believe in generations" crap too.

[gamer7804]

They are that’s why all other games will cost 10$ to upgrade.

[CaptainHenry916]

When the Sony fans and install base speak up they'll listen.

[SullysCigar]

Refreshing isn't it? If you don't take their crap, they won't give it. Sony fans won't take this kind of nonsense!

[DaCajun]

First I didn't down vote you and I would love to agree with you but I don't unfortunately. All I've seen the past few days were sony fanboys defending the previous price decision and chastising anyone who did not support Sony's decision.

Thinking it might have been the xbot trolls that inadvertently helped out us on the Sony side even though they probably didn't mean to when they were just trying to jump on anything Sony negative, lol.

[itsmebryan]

@sully
Did you miss all the people defending Sony for charging extra for an upgrade they said would be free?

[IRetrouk]

Funny that, cause on twitter I seen plenty of sony fans calling them out, any of you want links?

[CaptainHenry916]

@DaCajun

Fair enough. BTW I don't care about upvotes or downvotes

[Aussiesummer]

It's a piss poor job actually, having to be forced to change your greed because of a backlash from disgusted customers.

[badz149]

so...you'd prefer they remain as scumbag and thickheaded like Nintendo?

[IRetrouk]

Yet when MS done it, your response was much different.... and only warranted one comment in the whole thread, and it wasn't even to do with the actual reversal.....can't think of why that would be🤔...🤦‍♂️

https://n4g.com/news/239777...

[darthv72]

Feels kind of weird seeing sony being the one to do 180 on things with new platform. Last gen it was MS doing all the backtracking 180 stuff when xbo released.

[crazyCoconuts]

MS backtracked on their Gold pricing change beginning of the year. Good to see both companies being responsive to feedback. It's a sign they're concerned about competition.

[Chevalier]

Yeah Sony is as quick to respond as you were to forget that whole Xbox Gold doubling price right?! 😆 🤣

[porkChop]

That's fantastic news. It's still shitty that they tried it in the first place, but at least they've listened.

[gravedigger]

Good. Appreciate the move

[gamer7804]

First step accomplished, next step getting rid of the 10$ up charge to goto the os5 version on other games

[Silly gameAr]

Let's see if this gets as much attention as the "anti consumer" version did.

But, I am glad Sony listened and acted.

[derek]

Sorry Elemental but your wrong. You know what's worse then this latest nontroversy it's people like you with your phony outrage. I venture to say that the majority of the most vocal clowns hyperventilating over this issue didn't give a crap about horizon or playstation. Elemental let's be real most of the people b**ching and moaning were the same xbox freaks who try this with every bit of even slightly negative Sony news. I to didn't think it was a big deal as I own a ps5, but thought since they made the commitment they shouldn't go back on their word.

[Gamer75]

And it's people like you who let companies get away with ripping off their fanbase because you think that the bad things that they do isn't a big deal

[Tacoboto]

Xbox freaks bitching about Sony choices saved PS4 players up to $70 repurchasing a game they already bought.

If you're gonna be that much of a twat at least have the courage to not self-censor your own fowl mouth with what else you spew out.

[derek]

Gamer75 if you think this a big deal, than you obviously must live a very charmed existence. It's not a big deal at all.

[derek]

Grow up Taco, don't waste your time talking tough with me. Lol. Saved ps4 gamers 70$? You must consider yourself a hero. Lol

[KillBill]

So you are claiming that it was the "xbox freaks" that forced Sony to change their marketing on this game? lol

[Gamer75]

Yeah such a charmed existence that I work 16 hrs a day 7 days a week despite the pandemic

[derek]

Gamer75 then you should certainly agree that none of this is objectively important or worth getting worked up over.

[SonyPS360]

You think they deserve praise for NOT being pricks?

Actually that isn't even correct. They tried to be pricks but realised they couldn't get away with it.

I will never understand the simple-mindedness of brand loyalty. It's like you people WANT to be suckered out of your money.

[Gazondaily]

Lol Sony this gen is like Xbox last gen. This is a good u-turn. Well done true gamers for speaking out and not defending this nonsense.

[generic-user-name]

They've already released 3 quality PS5-only titles, so they are nothing like Xbox last gen with that alone.

Don't forget Xbox kept F2P titles behind a paywall for the whole generation, under Phil's watch, only recently fixing that, but media were very VERY quiet about it and Phil is continually portrayed as a white knight.

[Aloymetal]

Some fanatics hate the facts, look at your downvotes. And yeah, how dare you to mention lord Phil aka ''The Messiah''...

[Darkborn]

Phil has been with Xbox for years before he became head and he was a top honcho for a while. He was involved in a lot of the Xbox one fiasco, sure he didn't do all of it himself, but he still agreed to a lot of it. He's only recently trying to look good to make Xbox look good.

[Aloymetal]

@Darkborn
Exactly!. Some always seem to forget (on purpose) that Phil Spencer was GM of Microsoft Game Studios starting in 2008, became the VP in 2009. He was in charge of their games.

[Petebloodyonion]

Quick question how many threads in N4g or Xbox support group, reddit started by Xbox user mad about not being able to play Free to play games that you even get on mobile?
How many ppl ripped their shirts about the need to pay 20$ for the physical Fortnite disc that you still need to download half the game from the Internet and play online?
Man do you see thousand of ppl screaming at Sony because they removed the browser from PlayStation?
The same applied to Netflix Does it suck that it was behind a paywall? of course It does and it's stupid but did someone really complained when TV, phones, tablets, Blu-ray, Apple Tv, etc are bundled with Netflix?

Now again let's be clear I still found this a stupid move from MS just like it's stupid move from Sony to have Cloud saving behind a paywall but it's far major issue that makes ppl go on a uproar a company website.

Now if you want to talk about the why do we need to pay for online gaming in 2021 when MS and Sony don't provide server to publishers, makes tons of money from Microtransaction and digitals store etc.
Then yes Now you do have a case (that I will gladly defend with you).

[mike32UK]

Never owned an XBox, had every single playstation at launch including PSP, Vita and VR. What they were planning prior to this u turn was pure money grabbing and I didn't support it whatsoever. This was likely Jim Ryan's doing, he really needs taking down a peg or two

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

They have made some big anti-consumer mistakes (attempting to shut down the PS3 PS Store was another one), but on the other hand, they are pumping out great games just like on the PS4 which didn't happen on the XB1, so it's a bit different.

MS have made less mistakes, but they did have to reverse a crazy plan to try charge $120 for XBL Live Gold (they're going to try increase prices again at some stage).

What people should learn is that if we voice our complaints both Sony and MS will often cave and do better for the consumer. Fanboys don't need to make excuses.

[4U2NV]

MS has made less mistakes?...🤣🤣 🤣

RROD
Needing Gold for services such as netflix etc
Kinect - that was just a mistake altogether which leads to the next point-
Removing Kinect LOL
Tv Sports Tv Sports
Weaker console - higher price.
NO GAMES.
Releasing a next gen console with no games for it.
Oh man the list of MS mistakes made I could go on and on LMAO

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

@4U2NV

I was only talking about mistakes (anti-consumer moves) so far this generation because the OP compared this gen to last gen.

[Flakegriffin]

Except Xbox never “listened” to their fans last generation and didn’t start “listening” until recently.

[derek]

Sorry Flake but Microsoft are listening and have been listening. There fanbase refused to pay for their crummy games last gen so now Microsoft is giving them away for free this gen. Lol

[Petebloodyonion]

MS never listended last gen?
Lets see
Remove DRM when it wasn't possible
Remove Kinect when it wasn't possible
Started to focus on gaming division instead everything except gaming
Started to really care about PC player (that's me)
Brought backward compatibility when it wasn't possible
Bought several studios.

Now If MS underperformed last gen is basically because they made one the worst launch in history and believed that consumers thrust was won. A fun fact that this gen it's all about Xbox has no games when Sony sold PS4 with barely real exclusives except remasters but Sony was pro consumers while MS was bashed for several crappy move.

Now good news is that Sony is quick to turn around and fix this and do have a great track record and console.
But never forget thrust is won 1 single drop at the time while you can lost the whole jar in a flash.

[derek]

@gazondaily yeah like xbox last gen accept with a system people actually want with games people will pay for. Lol

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

Yet you spent all of last gen defending MS lol

[Aussiesummer]

We're defending it though....for future games, also defending g the bullshit statement that was "we believe in generations"

[IRetrouk]

How was it bullshit? Did sony release cross gen and next gen only games? Yes,
Is that two generations they are supporting? Yes.
Wheres the bullshit?

[dbcoops]

What U-turn? Sony didn't get the chance to even clarify the upgrade option before IGN jumped to assumptions so they could write their little hate article. This is a classic case of someone else creating a problem that never existed so they can advertise for xbox, gain click revenue and rile up the usual's in the process.

[IRetrouk]

To be fair sony did state there was no upgrade option at all for standard and special editions, to get access to both version's you had to buy one of the more expensive editions like ea etc are doing with their games now, they were clear, people didn't like it, complained and sony listened.

[anast]

Nice. I like your style.

[isarai]

Demand better, get better

[Aussiesummer]

They slipped up and got called out but slammed back with a this is the last time this will be happening be thankful message.

[dbcoops]

Or just wait for actual confirmation from Sony instead of grabbing your pitchforks anytime IGN writes a Sony hate article. We should be demanding better of IGN.

[KillBill]

Wow... way to change the story to suit your own version of what went down. Sony admitted in their reply that they were wrong in this situation.

[dbcoops]

@KillBill

I'm not changing anything, I'm stating facts as apposed to mindlessly riding the IGN fodder train with you.

"Last year we made a commitment to deliver free upgrades for our cross-gen launch titles, which included Horizon Forbidden West."

"we will stand by our offer:"

Clearly some people are trying to change the story but I'm not one of them.

Go ahead post they exact quote from Sony where they said they were wrong in this situation, I'll wait.

[Doge]

@dbcoops
"Thursday was to be a celebration of Horizon Forbidden West and the amazing team at Guerrilla working to deliver it on February 18, 2022. However, it’s abundantly clear that the offerings we confirmed in our pre-order kickoff missed the mark."

An update (by Jim Ryan) posted two days after the original blog post indicating that they failed to achieve the results intended in the original post, and how they are correcting it with a past commitment. You can continue blaming IGN if you want though or say stuff like how Sony "planned this all along" (which would make the situation worse since that would come off as a desperate marketing tactic).

Take it how you will~

[dbcoops]

@Dodge

If it was a past commitment they made as you stated how am I wrong saying it was previously planned? You can continue using this whole thing as an excuse to slam Sony but I think its been made clear to everyone's satisfaction hopefully, so everyone can move on with their lives now.

[Doge]

I never said you were right or wrong. All I did was give you the quote that you asked for, gave my 2 cents, and asked you to take it how you will.

But don't expect me to reply to you further because I really do not care for whatever insinuation you wanna throw at me, and instead I'll continue playing the critically acclaimed MMORPG Final Fantasy XIV which has a free trial, and includes the entirety of A Realm Reborn AND the award-winning Heavensward expansion up to level 60 with no restrictions on playtime. Cheers~

[ocelot07]

I bet you this won't get as much coverage at the sonys horizon upgrade path sucks one.

[derek]

Nope you're right, the outrage mob will be on to the next phony outrage.

[-Foxtrot]

Great

Now fix the collectors edition and put a physical disc inside them

It’s a low blow by Sony and I don’t want all future collectors editions going digital only

[Battlestar23]

They put a voucher code for the game in the collectors edition so that owners of the digital only ps5 can still buy the collectors edition. You want Sony to give the middle finger to gamers who bought the digital ps5 console? That wouldn't be customer friendly then would it?

[-Foxtrot]

It’s called a collectors edition

COLLECTORS

If you bought a digital only console then there’s a high chance you don’t care about any collectible goodies lying around your house

It’s a middle finger to people who like collecting physical games

[AspiringProGenji]

Then they should have two types of collectors edition: one with a voucher and one with the disc. The Regalia edition at least should have had a disc.

[VersusDMC]

I think the Mass effect collectors edition is the best solution. No game included so people can buy the version they want separately.

I've seen alot of last gen versions of collectors editions just sitting in stores for months in the past.

[LiViNgLeGaCY]

Thank God. That was a really dumb call.

[Battlestar23]

Good on Sony for this. I have the special edition of the ps5 edition pre-ordered but I'm going to cancel my order and pre-order the ps4 edition to get the game cheaper and get the ps5 version for free. I hope Sony do their version of MS gamepass I'm tired of having to pay high prices for games. $40 a year for all the latest titles would be a great pro customer move.

[derek]

Cool story Battlestar I don't believe you have horizon pre-ordered to begin with. I bet you're making it up.

[Orchard]

Why do you care if he did or didn’t preorder a game? Did you work on it?

[Petebloodyonion]

There you go!
I’ll repeat company do listen when ppl voice their complaints and grievances.
Glad to see that Sony can take note.
Now let’s hope that Sony change the price for both versions to 60$ instead of 70$.

[LucasRuinedChildhood]

"Players who purchase Horizon Forbidden West on PlayStation 4 will be able to upgrade to the PlayStation 5 version for free."

Seems like there's a loophole to upgrade for free and save $10/€10.

100% agreed on people needing to voice their complaints. We also got to keep the PS3 PS Store because people spoke up.

[John_McClane]

Wise decision.

[aquamala]

Good job everyone for complaining and making your voices heard

[Eonjay]

This

[Ausbo]

Good job Sony, and good job for those who spoke up. And it’s great to hear that they have a clear strategy for future cross gen games

[GhostofHorizon]

I wonder how many of those that complained will give praise to Sony.

They are going to have to find something new to complain about, good thing showcase is next week.

[lociefer]

I also wonder how many of those who wrote this off and tried to damage control will react

[GhostofHorizon]

If they were fine with it before I imagine they are still fine with it now?

How would you expect them to react?

[Battlestar23]

People who defended this won't react but the complainers are already moving the goalposts in regards to the fact that when they buy god of war Ragnarok on ps4 they have to pay a $10 price. They act like the devs don't deserve to be paid for the fact that they are working on 2 versions of the game and working long hours. If you were asked to do extra work at your workplace wouldn't you want extra money? or would you be happy to do all the extra work and not be paid for it. Gamers are getting way to entitled and expect every game to be cheap in price while keeping next gen quality. Which isn't going to happen.

[Imalwaysright]

Battlestar23

?? If devs have to work more hours they're getting paid for them or do you think that they work for free? As long as worker's rights are guaranteed and by that I mean no disgusting crunch time then I'm guessing that developers would welcome the extra work considering that most of them don't have any job security whatsoever and are laid off after whatever game they've been working on goes gold.

[lociefer]

@Battlestar

Paying 10 bucks more for a next gen upgrade is actually something to complain about. Why can't Sony implement something like smart delivery ? No, we get a freebie with horizon coz ppl complained, but papa Ryan has set the stage for what's to come.

Also the argument of "DeVeLoPmEnt CoSts" is mute. And even if it's hypothetically correct. The attachment rate of consoles is sky high. Sony and MS can't even keep up with demand. So the costs are being recuperated through that.

[UncertainCategory]

Very happy that Sony listened to their fans and made the right consumer friendly move for this cross platform game.

And I’m specifically glad they didn’t listen to folks like you, who were defending them hard on the other thread.

Sony did the right thing, mad props to them for it because we don’t often see market leaders change course in the face consumer demands like this often. It shows that Sony cares and they should be praised for that.

[lociefer]

Maybe they should admit they were wrong. Just like Sony

[GhostofHorizon]

If Sony thought they were wrong they would have made all the games moving forward PS4+PS5, they are simply honoring what they said earlier. Chances are they expected Horizon to launch way earlier than Feb next year and the promise they inadvertently made just got overlooked.

I still think this was a non-issue. Just because Sony bends backwards to please the fake outcry doesn't change anything.

[lociefer]

Overlooked ? By a multi million dollar corporation ? Right.
Fact is. They were testing the waters, see how much they could push. But luckily some sane people complained and they reverted back. All in all i think arrogant sony is making a come back and i really wish MS would get their heads outta their asses and make some decent IPs so that they can become the market leaders again. Sony needs more competition

[Orchard]

I gave them praise for reversing this decision.

But I also see it as the same BS Microsoft pulled with XBL gold - they still tried it and thought they would get away with it - and will likely try similar things in the future.

[GhostofHorizon]

XBL gold thing was just next level nonsense, I consider both Plus and Gold to be somewhat mandatory to get the most out of those eco systems. I'm still not confident that something just didn't get lost in the mix because 100% increase just seemed out of touch.

I am interested in what they plan to push Gamepass to, there's no way that service stays at the current price. It's a bit ironic that not only are they moving towards the always online future they proposed with Xbox One, they are getting people to pay for it as well.

[VersusDMC]

This is great...but is the game 60 on PS5?

Because if it's still 60 on PS4 and 70 on PS5 i'll just get the digital PS4 version and get the free upgrade.

People who want the PS5 physical might have to pay 10 extra.

But still great news for PS4 players

[Gianoni33]

Still dont get it. There are two options - ps4 and ps5 versions....

Should't they keep just one, or at least with the same price?

Once there are no difference between them, as long as you we can update freely.

I have a ps5 and i'll buy the ps4 version and update it...its cheaper...

[FallenAngel1984]

When we hold companies to the fire changes are made

[UncertainCategory]

Glad to see Sony reverse course on this one. This was the right response!

[FallenAngel1984]

Wait hold dafuq up

“ I also want to confirm today that moving forward, PlayStation first-party exclusive cross-gen titles (newly releasing on PS4 & PS5)–both digital and physical*–will offer a $10 USD digital upgrade option from PS4 to PS5.”

What an even greater amount of BS. Talk about out of the stove and into the fire

[Teflon02]

How so? That's always been what they've been doing. Ps5 versions are $10 more. They've done the free thing with Miles and Sackboy only as far as I'm aware. Some third parties like Atelier Ryza 2 and Crash too. But sonys been doing it. Can't really start a fire if it's the norm.

[ShadowWolf712]

Nah. That's a fair price.

[JEECE]

So you'd rather have no upgrade option than a $10 upgrade option? I don't think you understand the stove/fire analogy very well.

[FallenAngel1984]

@ Tef

How is ‘always’ doing $10 upgrades make it okay? Various other publishers including their prime competitor have free upgrades. You’d think the company that has “for the players” as their slogan would be more consumer friendly

@ Jeece

I’d rather have them be consumer friendly and continue with free upgrades like many other publishers.

[Limitedtimestruggle]

This is why we as a community need to stand up and stop spreading the ass cheeks apart for the infinite Sony fist.

[Teflon02]

Only people that needs to stand up to the company are the Nintendo Fan boys. They're the ones with real pricing issues if they're re-releasing sides rolling new super Mario bros U deluxe as a $60 game and MK8/BotW still $60 while every Sony game in that time frame is about $20 by choice lol

[Limitedtimestruggle]

Oh man, yeah Nintendo truly is it's own class of a shitshow for sure ^^

[ZeekQuattro]

Reminds me when Microsoft randomly said Live is going up and people said nope so they kept it as is. Not to be outdone here comes Sony trying to renege on a promise it made months ago. Another PR headache that should of never happened in the first place. People tried to defend the stupidity as well. Now they'll have to damage control Sony changing its stance back in order to keep their original promise. lmao

[Tedakin]

Why buy the 70 dollar PS5 version when you can pay 60 and upgrade free?

[Teflon02]

I don't want a ps4 version. I'll legit pay $10 more for the ps5 case for my physical collection. Trying to buy all exclusives physical when possible. The rest can be digital or ps4 w.e. but games like Horizon I gotta see the ps5 case in my collection. If you're buying digital. 100% with you on that though

[Gaming4Life1981]

See that's what fans speaking up does, makes these companies reverse bad decisions.

[Levii_92]

Herman Hulst and Jim Ryan are not good at being head of anything at Playstation i really, really wish someone else was in charge. Oh how i miss the older team.

[derek]

Oh god Levii please shut up with this nonsense. Nobody cares we want great games and they are delivering.

[Orchard]

Fixed it for ya:

We want great games without being ripped off.

[Silly gameAr]

@derek

People want great games, but they want to get them for a bargain bin price. They want that dollar store gaming, and it doesn't matter how much work or money the devs put into their work.

[Orchard]

@Silly

$60/$70 is not bargain bin or dollar store prices.

Why are you still defending this? Even Sony have admitted they were wrong…

[derek]

Orchard you can whine and complain till the end of time, companies create goods and charge a price they think the market will support. You either pay the price or you don't.

[Orchard]

@derek Well apparently myself and half of the internet complaining did change the price ;)

They over-estimated what price the market would support and have now admitted their mistake and corrected it.

A win for us gamers :)

[Flakegriffin]

The fans have won!

[Inverno]

But they'll still charge 70 dollars for the PS5 version? Tell me again how games are totally worth 70. Where would the logic be in charging 10 extra dollars when you get the same game for less? The whole point of BC was to stop this nickel-and-diming and while 3rd party and MS are doing just that SONY charging you all an extra 10 dollars for something that would have already been done during the main development of the game!

Imagine having a more powerful PC and having the graphic options locked behind a paywall

[Teflon02]

Tell me how all those Nintendo games are worth $60 and worth that price 8 years later in a re-release released years ago? That's bad logic because you should be flaming Nintendo right now with that bs and not Sony if you really believe that.

[thesoftware730]

But this is a Sony thread, why would he be flaming Nintendo?

Go to a Nintendo thread and do that lol.

[CantThinkOfAUsername]

This is deflection at its finest. We are talking about Sony and its rival Microsoft here. Nintendo and its fans are in their own bubble (doesn't help that the majority are very casual who would never speak up).

Xbox are offering all their games for $60 whether you buy it for Xbox One, Xbox Series or PC and the upgrade is free with all added bells and whistles. PlayStation aren't. The End.

[IRetrouk]

@Can't think, your getting the base game for 60, to get the full content day one you have to spend more, flight sim, forza, both with day 1 content locked behind the more expensive versions.... also halo single player costing 60, your now getting less for your money than you did any previous gen halo.....Sony aint doing that at all with their releases. I'll take the 70 full game vs a 60 one with content locked behind more expensive versions any day of the week🤷‍♂️

[Teflon02]

Ps4 and Ps4 pro is equivalent to your example, not ps5. Ps4 and ps5 are 2 different platforms, not a modification of the same platform

[Inverno]

During the games development they would already be giving the PS5 version higher resolution, higher frame rate, lod, charging you is completely unnecessary. They do so as if it was done afterwards which in Horizons case it's not. Also idk what Nintendo has to do with this but I personally don't buy their games BECAUSE they've not lowered the prices years later and that's criticism Ninty gets from many gamers and rightly so

[Orchard]

A very welcome 180. This is why we as gamers should be more vocal and not just accept BS that gets thrown at us by the big companies.

We’ve now defeated an XBL gold price hike and rip-off cross gen bundles.

Sad to see them only commit to paid upgrades for future games though…

[dbcoops]

Funny because a lot of you accepted the BS that IGN wrote without hesitation. Had people just waited we would have gotten the official word from Sony which was already going to be this announcement unless you actually think that in a matter of a couple days time the people complaining in the comment section on N4G got Sony to make a 180, lol.

"Sad to see them only commit to paid upgrades for future games though…"

Some people are never happy.

[Orchard]

We didn’t blindly accept an IGN article - we accepted what Sony unveiled on their official website and blog 🤦‍♂️

“ Had people just waited we would have gotten the official word from Sony which was already going to be this announcement”

Huh? This was clearly not going to be the announcement - it’s posted as an update to the original announcement:

“ However, it’s abundantly clear that the offerings we confirmed in our pre-order kickoff missed the mark.”

It wasn’t N4G alone but clearly the consumer backlash is what caused them to go do a 180.

“ Some people are never happy”

You are correct - I am never happy when I’m being ripped off.

[dbcoops]

Posted as an update to the IGN article that jumped the gun and got it wrong as usual. I've been around this gaming thing for a while and IGN has a long standing history of crapping on Sony any chance they get especially if it gives them an opportunity to peddle xbox. Updating IGN's fodder article is not indicative of a 180. Maybe in the future people will learn to wait for an official statement from Sony instead of jumping on the hate train IGN is conducting.

[Orchard]

That’s totally not what happened though 🤦‍♂️. Sony updated their own article, not IGN. IGNs article came after Sony’s announcement.

Sony announced the fact that there was no next gen upgrade and you had to buy a special edition to get a cross-gen bundle - not IGN.

A Sony blog post on PlayStation.com is obviously an official statement.

Sony 3 days ago: https://n4g.com/news/243941...

IGN 2 days ago: https://n4g.com/news/243952...

[Scissorman82]

Was this really worth it, Sony? You completely blunted the announcement of your showcase over what? $10

[Good-Smurf]

Showcase is still days away that's why they did this first.
By the time showcase arrives the internet crowd will already have new things to bitch and outrage over.

[Neonridr]

still sucks that the Collector's Edition I ordered I only get a digital code. I get a steelbook for what exactly I have no idea..

[JEECE]

Will the steelbook look worse on your shelf because it doesn't have a disc sitting in it?

[Neonridr]

I don't put the steelbook on my shelf. I use the steelbook to hold the game. I put the statue on my shelf.

[jBlakeeper]

Spider Man MM and Sackboy both released when the pandemic was nearly at its thickest. So I can see why they tried to not offer a free upgrade. But it’s nice he is sticking to his word and it’s the right thing.

[dbcoops]

"Players who purchase Horizon Forbidden West on PlayStation 4 will be able to upgrade to the PlayStation 5 version for free."

So all that fake outrage was for nothing. This is why articles like the one from IGN that was clearly meant to do nothing more than rile up a certain group of people shouldn't be allowed here and should have been failed.

[Neonridr]

it was not fake outrage, this is a direct result of that outrage.

[dbcoops]

Yeah a handful of people complaining on N4G made them change their minds right? Or is it far more likely this was their plan all along. Don't know what ever happened to common sense.

[Neonridr]

@dbcoops - the quote even said :

"However, it’s abundantly clear that the offerings we confirmed in our pre-order kickoff missed the mark."

hence, we are correcting this.

[ShadowWolf712]

"A handful of people complaining on N4G"

No. A LOT of people complaining loudly on Twitter, Facebook, the PS Blog, YouTube... and most of them PlayStation fans.

Not everyone who called them out on this was some "hater", friend. Nor was this "always the plan". The plan was to charge people $80 to get both versions of the game, digital-only. This update is in response to people calling out them going back on their promise just because THEY chose to delay it out of the launch window.

[bleedsoe9mm]

give it to Sony for realizing their massive anti consumer misstep and making it right quickly

[Baza]

This is the right thing to do. Nice job.

[thesoftware730]

Excellent!!

This is what I'm talking about, all the people that were defending the bullshit must see how much of a drone and tool they were being. Sony made a promise to fans and were breaking it, it needed to be called out.

Bravo to all the gamers who voiced concerns over this situation, and bravo to Sony for listening and correcting the situation.

[TheExecutioner]

the correct decision ... they cannot ignore 110 million base players in the favor of 11 million of a generation facing supply issus.

[JEECE]

Lol except 90 million of those PS4 owners don't but first party exclusives.

[Chevalier]

Even if 90 million don't buy 1st party games that leaves 26 million who do. Is 26 million copies sold for a game bad?! Last I checked most companies would say that amount is extremely successful

[plmkoh]

Was such a dumb decision too begin with. Obviously we don't know what goes on in the board room, could be the PS4 version is a cheap port and they're trying to get people to pay for it but either way it's these moments the cost should be on them.

[Stanjara]

There we go! Love it!

[MrVux000]

There is always something with Sony of late.
''PlayStation first-party exclusive cross-gen titles (newly releasing on PS4 & PS5)–both digital and physical*–will offer a $10 USD digital upgrade option from PS4 to PS5.''
So in other words... just buy it on PS5 (once you eventually find and buy one)

[repsahj]

...They should make all cross gen games both priced at $60, so the free upgrade will be automatic upon purchase. Maybe this way will also help PS5 version to sell well. Because if they dont, even PS5 owners will buy the PS4 version because of the $10 difference.

[ShadowWolf712]

They really won't. Miles Morales' sales, for example,. STRONGLY favor the PS5 version. Same with RE8.

[Sherif129]

Good they’ve honoured this, but why not for Ghost of Tsushima? I know it’s not a launch title, but paying a fee to upgrade to a PS5 version of a cross gen title is bad practice imo and they should stop doing this.

[Battlestar23]

They should make the PS5 versions of all exclusives free it's anti customer to charge gamers for them.

[jlove4life]

Power to the players

[dreamed]

I was only saying this morning, watch n4g Sony fanboys frame this as a good thing😂😂...and some of you have done it... 😂😂priceless 😎👍

[Silly gameAr]

What about the xbox fans that act like activist fighting for gamers, like they had something to do with it? There's more of them in here then Sony fans.

[dbcoops]

@Silly gameAr

100% correct, glad somebody said it.

[shadowT]

good step.

[Fluttershy77]

What's next? Horizon goes Egipt?

[chiefJohn117]

See what happens when we as gamers speak out? We hold the power my brothers

[justadelusion]

by the time this title comes out if you dont have a ps5 you either dont want one or dont have a job to be honest

[UnSelf]

Most people on this site don’t have a job. Look how much theyre bitching about 10 dollars.

[Orchard]

So you’re telling me come February PS5s are going to be sitting on shelves in Walmart and buying a PS5 will be easy?

Even Sony are saying otherwise.

[darkrider]

More smoke that some try to make a big thing...

[Soldierone]

Still digital vouchers in the collectors edition, so apparently they didn't listen that closely.......

[sourOG]

If they made it a ps5 exclusive they wouldn’t be going be going through that.

[SonyPS360]

I honestly have zero intention of getting this on Ps4 whether I own a PS5 or not.

If I'm gonna play this, I want it at its best.