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Gabe Newell: Hitting Steam Deck Price Was 'Painful' but 'Critical'

IGN : Valve characterizes the Steam Deck price as "very aggressive," saying that it's vital that it feel like a high-end PC gaming device without being too expensive.

masterfox1051d ago

299 would it be an insta-buy imo, have dozens of steam games , but still not having a dpad really sucks

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masterfox1051d ago (Edited 1051d ago )

Holy!, you are right, from the first image since it was from an angle didnt realize it was one in there all the way to the top left, my bad .

John_McClane1051d ago

Making a mistake doesn't justify all the downvotes, anyone could have done the same.

esherwood1051d ago (Edited 1051d ago )

Even if it was junk? They stretched to get it at the price point it’s at and they want the thing to run AAA pc games. id rather pay the extra money then waste $300 on something just because I can afford it . Look at the specs on it compared to the switch

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darthv721051d ago

$400 is a great price for the power you get compared to the $350 of the new OLED switch. A regular switch is $300 and the $50 price hike for just a better screen is not worth it. But $100 more for a fully fledged PC in your hands (that is cheaper than even the latest smartphones/tablets) that you can literally play tens of thousands of games ranging from Atari to Xbox using native store launchers as well as emulators.

count me in.

Vegamyster1051d ago

The price is great but PC games are quite large, the base model is really only good if you plan on playing smaller or older games, the 256gb model here in Canada is $659 which is really the minimum if you're doing AAA games.

mkis0071051d ago

The microsd slot should be compatible with tb cards... the 256gb ones arent expensive.

Sgt_Slaughter1051d ago

You're not factoring in a few things.

First, it's $400 for the base model but it has terribly low storage for PC games, especially if you wipe it and load Windows 10 onto it. Second, there are a ton of games that don't work natively with a controller and the amount of time that will need to be spent configurating controls for each of those games (as well as trial and error) is going to take a while collectively. Finally, we're still not even sure how this is going to run most modern games as well as just how quickly will it kill battery life.

If there is a remodel down the line, I'd wait for that one or get one of the higher priced models when it launches, but that wipes away any value it once had at the $400 (even higher in other regions) prince point.

Bladesfist1051d ago (Edited 1051d ago )

If anyone wants the stats you can just get them from steam's all products page as it allows you to filter based on controller support. You wont find many games that release on console and don't have controller support on PC.

There are 55,953 games on steam.

25,272 have full controller support.
18,513 have partial controller support.

esherwood1050d ago

Really hope this puts pressure on Nintendo to step it up though I doubt it. The switch oled was definitely a disappointment

porkChop1051d ago (Edited 1051d ago )

It's still too high. It's $499 in Canada for only 64GB. For PC gaming that's not nearly enough. It should have had at least 128GB minimum. And not having the anti-glare glass unless you pay $819 Canadian is unacceptable.

I mean at this price Valve is going up against the Series X and the PS5. Other than portability, what is the value proposition?

Vanfernal1051d ago

They used Death Stranding as an example of the games it can run. The Steam file for Death Stranding is 80gb. XD

Profchaos1051d ago

I guess the benifit is that the base model has expandable storage meaning you can get a micro SD card and expand it

DOMination-1051d ago

Can you split a game between internal and SD if its over 64GB ?

darthv721051d ago

Id agree... 128gb for $400 would have been right for the entry level model

GameBoyColor1051d ago

Thats my only complaint, why pull a nintendo and skimp on the storage. The nvme options are even more of a turn off. At least you can expand with micro sd but still...

Vegamyster1051d ago

To keep the price down they had to skimp out somewhere, there is a reason the best phones on the market cost well over $700+ and Laptops cost more than the desktop equivalent. The smaller the device the more it costs, it's not a matter of a company trying to screw over consumers, you look at other powerful handheld PC systems it's no different.

kneon1051d ago

@Vegamyster

You are correct, except for a certain fruit flavoured phone maker that does screw over their customers by changing many times the actual cost difference if you want a phone with more storage, and of course do not support a microSD slot so that you have no other options

DonDon30001051d ago

The price is great at $399 since I have hundreds of games from throughout the years. Only $50 more than a Switch plus I have a ton of games already. I'm sold.

Sgt_Slaughter1051d ago

You'll need a lot of storage to play those hundreds of games, and since it's only going to be expandable via Micro SD cards that will get pricey fast. 1TB Micro SD cards on Amazon go for $220 or more currently, not to mention the load speeds might be a problem.

Bladesfist1051d ago

I have 500 games installed on a 6TB drive on my PC, I hope they build in an option to transfer games over your local network in steam.

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FanimeCon 2024 | Persona / Shin Megami Tensei Cosplay Gathering

The Persona / Shin Megami Tensei cosplay gathering allowed fans of the acclaimed JRPG series to meet up during FanimeCon 2024.

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Days Gone Director Says Bend's Project Costs Over $250M; Says PS Co-CEO Doesn't Want 2 Zombies Games

Days Gone director claims Sony has already poured in at least a $250M in Bend's project; says Days Gone sold more than Death Stranding.

shinoff218322h ago

Well that sucks. Seems they want more online trash. I'd rather of had the sequel if it was single player

MrNinosan8h ago

What online trash games did PS Studios release last 10 years?

Notellin6h ago

The past has nothing to do with the future. This is such a terrible argument. Everyone knows about their current live service push.

_SilverHawk_5h ago

It's so tragic what happened to days gone. It is such an amazing game but bandwagoners trashed it and it underperformed in it's launch year. Days gone is the best open world zombie game released in the past five years. I was recently playing it on pc and I'm still amazed by it.

Games are very expensive to make and it seems like it's normal for a AAA game to cost over a quarter billion to make so if a quality game like days gone greatly underperforms then people shouldn't be upset when they see a lot of GAAS. I still remember a lot of bandwagoners calling days gone trash but years later it's now amazing when it's considered a failure by sony.

If a game isn't the best thing seen since hats with pockets then a lot of gamers who haven't played it automatically calls it rubbish and whoever made it should be incarcerated

Cacabunga3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Co CEO prefers gamers to boycott.. so be it. I’ll never buy a gaas.
Just imagine buying a game you cannot replay in some years.. this shit must stop.

Days Gone did zombies in a very original way. The story was also so engaging. You actually only meet Zombie hordes later in the game. There are many more enemy groups to deal with.

MrNinosan2h ago

@Notelin
I am one of the few who bought Days Gone on release day and loved it completely.
However, "more online trash" is phrased like Sony has put out alot of trash online games.
We got what, 2 games? Helldivers 2 and GT7, 2 of the most sold Playstation games where both is loved by millions.

You, me and especially shinoff has no idea if Fairgames, Marathon and Concord will be trash.

Just because we (as in you and me) don't love or support online games, doesn't mean millions of other do.

And we don't know what Bend Studio is working with? We don't know if they're forced to make a online game or another amazing single player experience.

The only thing we do know is that it's not Days Gone, sadly due to poor sales the first 6 months.

shinoff218324m ago(Edited 18m ago)

More online trash wasmt meant how insee it comes across. I should've worded it different I was meaning the focus they currently have on it.

Anything online is online trash to me. How long did naughty dog spend on that dumba last of us multiplayer, how about Concord, or even the other couple we hear about. I fk with Sony because rpgs and their 1st party single player games. Been like that for years. I hate seeing them waste time, money, and talent on trash. I understand bot every game is gonna be for me but this focus they've seem to had on multiplayer is extremely disheartening. Even at the state of play the only things I was really feeling were Astrobot and silent hill 2 and I'm content with that, not everything is for me. It's just the online focus I hate. Ms bought up 3 to 4 wrpgs developers, Sony just ignores rpgs 1st party wise.

And a days gone 2 would've been much better then whatever online sht bend is working on. I do know sometimes I get very idk emotional. I do need to work on toning that down a bit lol

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-Foxtrot22h ago

It would be a shame if it was true that Hermen never gave the franchise a chance simply because he didn't like it and they already had a "Zombie" game with TLOU.

NaughtyDog are most likely moving onto a new IP next so it would have been the perfect time to do it.

ThinkThink14h ago

Here's where xbox steps in and releases state of decay 3 day and date on ps5.

shinoff218317m ago

I mean it's not out of the realm of possibility at this point.

Grilla7h ago

Days gone 2 was canceled before Herman was in charge. That happened like 4 years ago.

vfl5237h ago

4 years ago he was head of Playstation Studios. He would've probably had a hand in the cancelation.

Notellin6h ago

Man two seconds of research could have saved you from this comment. Amazing work Grilla you fit in with the uniformed N4G community who speaks before verifying anything that they say.

Redemption-645h ago

Maybe encourage people to buy the game at full price and not when it's heavily discounted or go on plus. If this game had sold well when it was full priced a sequel would have been in the works. They made a single-player game that most people didn't support until they dropped the price.

Cacabunga3h ago

The guy’s just a moron.. he should have stayed within game development. His choices will have a terrible impact on the brand in the long run.

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excaliburps8h ago

Yep. Kind of weird since it wasn't a sales flop, no?

I know we have to take what Ross says with a grain of salt since we're hearing just one side of the story, but even so, the game wasn't bad at all. Heck, it's my brother's favorite last-gen game from what I recall.

The amount of zombies on screen, imagine that with the PS5 and SSD? That would be insanely fun!

Grilla7h ago

Most copies were sold on sale. Not enough ppl bought it at full price. I paid 20$ for it 6 -7 months after release.

Notellin6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Yeah we should never believe the creators side until we hear the corporate/big business side as history has shown we should always believe billion dollar corporations.

What a bootlicker statement.

derek1h ago

@Notellin, of course you'll believe an embittered ex-employee with an axe to grind because it's evil Sony he's complaining about. You guys act like days gone was this huge success and somehow Sony hates easy money a sequel would have generated. The game was mid and so was the response to it. They're still supporting the developer who is making a new ip that could be great.

shinoff218315m ago

Days gone was fantastic. I bought day one but didn't get around to it for months. When I finally did I was pissed at myself for waiting so long lol

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P_Bomb8h ago

Well I don’t want 10 live service games, but they have no problem doing that lol. Ugh.

CrimsonWing697h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Oh great so we only get what the big wigs want… y’know, the people that really have their fingers on the pulse of what their consumers want. Faaaaantastic!

rippermcrip5h ago

Well consider they know the sales... they do know what the consumer wants.

It sold shit.

-Foxtrot10m ago(Edited 9m ago)

But if it’s true what this guy says it sold better than Death Stranding

Yet that got a sequel and Kojima aside out of them both DS didn’t really NEED a sequel compared to Days Gone which ended on such a cliff hanger twist.

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Can FSR 3 frame generation deliver the 120fps dream on PS5 and Xbox?

Frame generation technology has arrived on consoles, amplifying frame-rates and potentially transforming experiences.

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purple1011d 1h ago

adds between 8.3-15.3 milliseconds of latency on the game they tested, - no thanks

darksky8h ago

Base latency is 130.8ms and frame gen takes that up to 139.1ms. A 7% increase in latency is hardly a deal breaker.

Zenzuu8h ago

That's hardly a deal breaker and not really noticeable. Even the folks at Digital Foundry said so as well.

darthv721d 1h ago

Impressive results... sadly I don't have a 120hz display. I was thinking this technique could increase fps on any game that supports it regardless of the display.

purple1011d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

I have a vrr telly in the lounge,

On another point, what if it were the other way around where the developer aims for higher fps, then used something like pssr to make the resolution higher, that might be better?

Any which way, PS5 pro sure looks interesting now, being they have already doubled frame rate, with JUST just this fsr3.0

sagapo6h ago

It’s up to dev’s to implement FSR 3 support tho but most probably will I guess (hope).

andy857h ago

Now I've extensively tried it I'm not too fussed about 120 fps. Give me a locked 60 and more details and I'm more than happy

anast3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

120 is a bit slow. My eyes can't look at anything less than 260fps.