It Sure Is Interesting To Rewatch That 'Fallout 76' Todd Howard E3 Reveal Now

Paul Tassi: "Fallout 76 has arrived not just as a middling title in a storied franchise, but as possibly the worst-reviewed major release of the year. Of the last few years, in fact. Time to take a look back to how this started."

[-Foxtrot]

He's such a lying b******

I remember watching the E3 show and just shaking my head at everything he was saying because I knew online in a Fallout game made by partly them would be a disaster. I was also annoyed how many people cheered him on like he was so trust worthy.

Anyone see the stuff he said about Oblivion during an E3 show before it came out, most of the stuff he mentioned was never in the game.

[UCForce]

This me feel annoying. Seriously, people need to stop praising Todd like a god.

[salmonade]

He is a laughing stock now. He has blown his last chance

[Godmars290]

Such is true of many devs and studios. Especially studios that lost founding devs and are little more than a name.

But no, until cock-up like this, it seldom happens. Is as soon forgotten by the next project.

[Ragthorn]

This is the last time I will be excited for a Bethesda game. Toddrolling Howard is great at presenting a dream and making people fall for it. In fact, when I was younger, I placed him as my favourite game creator (I mean in the likes of Miyamoto and such) because I loved Oblivion and Fallout 3. But the way he pitches these games always end up under delivering for me. I know some people like Fallout 76 and I honestly do not have an issue with that, but it's just the fact that the promise is never delivered I feel and the games are ALWAYS buggy and riddled with issues not related to gameplay per se. Even if you like absolutely everything, you can't admire that "Bethesda charm" or jank and the online environment experience is proving this point. I even like the premise of an online Fallout game because it has potential, but at least I feel that this title is lacking in its delivery.

[letsa_go]

Out of curiosity, what did you intend to say with your first sentence? I keep rereading it, trying to make sense of it. haha

[UltraNova]

Dont worry they just got bitch slapped for their arrogance amd shortcomings like there's no tomorrow. F76 is a massive failure, something that has been made very clear to them. Lets hope they... calibrate their future plans.

[Realms]

Well we will see because apparently both the new Elder Scrolls and Starfield will be using the same out dated game engine used on Fallout 4. Bethesda has fallen off as a developer they are a solid publisher but their games are starting to show how badly the industry has left them behind.

[AdonisIsBeast]

I would like to point out that going through Fallout with a friend should be an option for every future entry moving forward - even just one friend in co-op fashion.

However I will agree that 76 fails miserably in many regards and the execution was poor at best and I would not recommend this particular title by Bethesda.

[-Foxtrot]

No online

No multiplayer

Not even co op

They can’t do extra shit during development when they can’t even get a single player right

People should leave it at that. Want to play an RPG with a friend? Find another franchise, plenty out there.

[Nacho_Z]

Don't know why people are so against the idea, for me the perfect Fallout or Elder Scrolls would be a game designed for a single player but with the option to have co-op players drop in to fight alongside you.

Forget PVP unless it's a bespoke arena mode and just let people play with their friends if they wish to do so. If not then it's the same game but solo. What's not to like?

[fluxmulder]

There are 2 scenarios. Either Bethesda genuinely thought that FO76 was good enough to ship, or they knew it was crap but decided to ship it anyways. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and go with #1. I think they've been lulled into thinking that they can do no wrong, that their fans will buy anything, no matter how buggy it is. Well that kind of thinking has backfired on them spectacularly.

[ziggurcat]

I think they just got lulled into believing that an online Fallout game was worth making. I know people have asked for MP for a while, but I think it was more asking for a DiDo co-op option people were asking for, not this abomination.

[porkChop]

Yeah, co-op was really what people were asking for. I would have been fine with them just adding coop to Fallout 4 instead.

[AK91]

Number 2 for me.

[KillZallthebeast]

Or zenimax forced them. Todd and a few other bethesda devs weren't even in the credits until a patch

[KnightNumber86]

Wasn't it Skyrim on PS3 that they shipped "knowing" there were issues that made the game unplayable? This wouldn't be the first time.

[fluxmulder]

@KillZallthebeast I doubt Zenimax were pointing a gun to their heads. They seemed pretty damn confident about the game during pre-release (E3 presentation, No Clip documentary). I think they really thought it was a good game.. by their standards at least.

@HylianHero Bethesda likes to ship games that are "good enough", and let modders fix the rest. Their fans let it slide because they like the games. It seems like FO76 was the breaking point though. There isn't good enough of a game to look past the bugs, and fans can't fix the bugs themselves because it's an online game

[Lilrizky]

with mock reviews, QA testing, betas Bethesda knew 100%

my assumption is because they wanted to put out a game this year outside wolfenstein switch.

if fallout 76 didnt exist theres almost 2 full years between wolfenstein 2 on ps4 vs rage 2

[MoshA]

You dummies keep talking about bugs. As if that is the main problem with this bland garbage insulting action game. Worse than Fallout 4 & Skyrim.

[2pacalypsenow]

"Bethesda, who once famously denied Obsidian bonuses because Fallout: New Vegas was one point below an 85."

"Pikachu Face"

[Sirk7x]

NV sure aged a hell of alot better than 3 did.

[Strange_Evil]

Bathesda is quickly joining my list of worst publishers out there. We crucified Bioware cause they f'ed up Mass Effect but Fallout has always gotten a free pass with every single launch. Game breaking bugs with shitty ass graphics from the last gen era with clunky watered down RPG mechanics. FO4 story also sucked compared to 3 and NV.

These guys are stuck in the last gen. All the hype for the new Elder Scroll game has died down for me as soon as I came to know it is using the same engine. Expect a buggy glitchy last gen experience again with it.

[fiveby9]

I think Bethesda Game Studios could use new creative leadership. They take no risks and are producing some really lackluster products. Other studios have surpassed them and about to lap them. It's sad to see BGS fail so fard but perhaps with failure comes a new beginning.

[Strange_Evil]

@fiveby9... I really hope this is the kick in the nuts they needed. I really hope they go and overhaul their entire engine (or even throw it out of the window and start new). I really hope the sales sends a message that people don't need a multi-player Fallout game without a story. I really hope they understand their core strength is story telling with good RPG mechanics and amazing world creation which cannot be achieved with their old ass graphics from the PS2 days.

But something tells me they won't give a shit and we'll see the same dance with the next ES6. The only message they understand is sales and gullible folks will keep on buying this turd fueling them more.

[Armaggedon]

This game was a risk. Multiplayer game from Bethesda remember.

[Realms]

I don't think they care otherwise they would have started working on a new game engine for the next gen games but according from the horses mouth Peter Hines that isn't happening so any hype I had for Starfield is gone. I feel bad for Elder Scrolls fans since they will wait for years only to get more of the same.

[sagapo]

In Bioware’s defence: it was a whole other team making MEA then the ME trilogy. If the upcomming Anthem sucks as well, I’ll lose my faith in Bioware too.

[wheatley]

And what were some of reviewers' grievances with NV? The glitches in the game's engine made by Bethesda...

[1-pwnsause-1]

Glad Microsoft brought them out, I can see obsidian make a dope AAA title without Bethesda.

Those guys are pretty talented and underrated, exactly the type of companies that Microsoft should be buying

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Only an idiot would praise the purchase of multiplat studios.

[1-pwnsause-1]

ask that to telltale games.

[AK91]

I called it as soon as it was announced he can’t even make a functional offline game how on earth was he supposed to be make a working online one?

[Silly gameAr]

Honestly, I'm just glad I didn't fall into the Bethesda hype back in the Fallout 3 days.

[BlackTar187]

You missed out fallout 3 was awesome but fallout new Vegas was much better which was made by obsidian.

Fallout 4 was pretty lackluster but fallout atmosphere and lore are amazing things.

[Silly gameAr]

Honestly I tried to get into Fallout 3, but I guess it just wasn't for me, and I didn't get it. The last game I bought by Bethesda was Skyrim on the 360. Couldn't get into that either. I just didn't like the games that they made. I like the games that they publish, though.

[capjacksparrow]

Honestly, I think multiplayer can work in a portion of a Bethesda game, but not full co op like they have with 76.

My original idea for multiplayer in a Bethesda game was to have you be able to face online opponents in the arena in Oblivion. I think they could do something like that. Have team arena fights with friends or all out melee battles. Other than that though, you would ruin that single player experience.

[porkChop]

Nah. Coop can work just fine in Bethesda's games. It's just that with 76 they made an online game, rather than making a proper Fallout game with coop.

[Segata]

Bored me then and always hated Bethesda's Fallout games. 1+2 were good tho. The only games of Bethesda I find worth a damn is Evil Within, Wolfenstein and Doom.

[Darknova2077]

Those 3 games were only published by them. thats why they are good.

[Segata]

Exactly my point.

[gwumper987]

My personal favourite is Dishonoured 2, but again that isn't developed by them, only published.

[thepluggy]

TODD CAN SUCK HIS OWN COCK UNTIL IT FALLS OFF

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

He is full of it, but fanboys will still worship Todd Coward.

[cfc83]

Could this game be saved by mods ?

[WadeSeven]

Peter Molyneux as step down from the bullshiter's podium, Come on in Todd!!

[lucian229]

Can't wait to see how bad the Elderscrolls 6 game will be. Considering they are still going to be using the same ancient engine and we can't climb ladders; it will be interesting lol.

[Valiar]

Its hard to say this for me, but we will expect this kind of shit for ES6. Like simplified rpg mechanics, generic combat, bad story. And the worst of all is that there we will be some tools who will buy right away. Just like in F4 and i was one of them. F4 was shit compared to F3 and NV. Ill wait for reviews from now on.

[Indigon]

I wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda skips E3 next year.

[Spacemagic]

Fallout has been dying a slow death unfortunately. As a huge fan of 1 and 2, I was sceptical of 3...but ended up loving it and New Vegas. Fallout 4 was Skyrim'd up, the morality and speech options completely gutted (which is a huge part of Fallout) and VATS changed to "bullet time." Settlement building was a dumpster fire, and power armor was implemented stupidly. I still platinumed the disappointment knowing it was all the Fallout I was gonna get... but the future doesn't look so bright for my love of the franchise...

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Thats because Bethesda's writing is garbage.

[Strafe]

I've been a big fan of Bethesda, loved their games. When Morrowind came out I loved it, didn't play well on my pc so I bought an Xbox for it. Played the shit out of it, it was immersive and was a godsend at the time. Loved it.

Oblivion came out, didn't run too great on my pc so I spent loads of money on upgrading my pc for the sole reason of playing the game as I wanted it to run (Bethesda then, as now were not masters of optimisation). Loved the game, it was amazing.

Fallout 3 came out, played the crap out of it. Story was a bit wank, but the world, as with the games before, were immersive so all was forgiven. Still running on the old updated engine that was creaky even at the time, but it was great because of the characters and stories you found in the apocalypse.

Skyrim came out and it was great. It wasn't as good as the other games because the dumbing down had made it less of a model of greatness. But it still had a world that was enjoyable to explore. The janky engine that had been used since the start was still there, and it was beyond its time, it was time to go. The money obviously shouldn't have been an issue, they are making hand over fist with these games.

Then Fallout 4 came out. Still using the same shitty engine. And it was....good. Not great, just good. And they wanted you to pay for mods. And then I thought, fuck off you greedy twats. You make tons of money, stop being greedy tossers. Spend some money on a new engine, invest in animation and AI and story writers that you should be doing as game developers that want to make the best games possible.

And now we have this. The game no one wanted, that has been made in the worst way possible way. One of the things that made the games fun was the npcs and the stories that got told as you explored the world. Oh no, not in this game, apparently they weren't important.

This is a cashgrab that has failed just as it should do. This is what happens when a company doesn't listen to the people that buys their products and only listens to the money men who care about greed.

If the next Elder Scrolls comes out using the same shitty engine, with no care to making a quality product Fallout 4 will be the last game I buy from Bethesda that is actually developed by themselves. Their other studios are great, but they aren't leading by example.

[Nacho_Z]

Hit the nail on the head with a sledgehammer there, bang on (but fair) criticism of the company.

[Baza]

Hipocritical liar. He’s feeding us all bs. Glad to see Fallout76 fail miserably

[DaniMacYo]

This reminds me of so many times I see a crowd of people get into the moment and just cheer on anything someone says without even thinking about it. Because they eat that shit up. Now it’s released they must feel stupid, the moment I heard about this game I was like nah this gone be crap.
Elder Scrolls IV can’t come soon enough.

[DaniMacYo]

Todd Howard: “All new rendering, lighting and landscape technology, it allows us to have sixteen times the detail, and even view distant weather systems across the map.”

Hahah maybe he was thinking of the new Elder Scrolls? 😂

[DaniMacYo]

Expectations: “Fallout 76 is a prequel to all our other games, and it’s our biggest one yet,
and it is 4x the size of Fallout 4”

Reality: “Fallout 76 is a prequel to all our other games, and it’s our shitest one yet,
and it is 4x worse than Fallout 4”

There I updated for ya! 🤣

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Move over Molyneux...we have a new Champ to sit upon the Snake Oil Salesmen thrown,

[Artemidorus]

Suprised the FBI haven't caught up with this fraud.