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Fallout 76 is already getting review bombed on Metacritic

Fallout 76 servers went live a bit early and folks are already review bombing it on Metacritic.

-Foxtrot2011d ago

Well, well, well...people are being honest and not letting the Bethesda/Fallout brand cloud their judgment. Good for them but I have a feeling reviewers won't follow through.

See this is what you get Bethesda when you try and make a quick cash in...I mean hell make an online Fallout game sure like you did with the Elder Scrolls Online but why get so involved with the development, helping the other studio out which takes time, resources and money away from Elder Scrolls VI or Starfield. I never saw Todd that much on stage when they announced Elder Scrolls Online.

Sad thing is Fallout 76 has a good setting, the first vault dwellers setting foot back on the land after the bombs fell discovering the new world for the first time, that would have made a fantastic spin off game like a spiritual successor to New Vegas (by that I mean spin off wise, not a direct sequel). Yet they wasted it on this and I hope to God they just pretend this game dosen't exist in canon when they realise it's not as well liked.

Still think they should have used the spin off games like New Vegas to venture into new territory story wise, whether it's something like Fallout 76 in terms of being the earliest prequel or maybe use a spin off game to go outside the US, maybe the UK in London.

JaguarEvolved2011d ago

They've been getting away with rubbish performance in their games for over a decade and the games were getting amazing reviews. I'll never buy another Bethesda game unless it's proper polished and I'm a massive elder scrolls fan

Skull5212011d ago

I’m not sure what is to hate on about this game? Isn’t it just a multiplayer Fallout? What is so bad about that?

TheColbertinator2011d ago

@Skull

The worst thing about Fallout going multiplayer is Fallout going multiplayer. There is your answer.

JLynn9432011d ago

@skull People decided that they were going to hate this game as soon as it was revealed. It's a circle-jerk whine fest. This game is going to have a ton added to it. The biggest reason people like Foxtrot call this "being honest" instead of a bunch of predetermined hate and trolling is because they hated it preemptively, too.

ziggurcat2011d ago

@skull:

"I’m not sure what is to hate on about this game?"

Because it's forced MP that is just going to be rife with people griefing each other. Had they made a single player game with the *option* for DiDo co-op, and nixed all of the terrible base-building garbage, ti might have been more well-received.

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Skull5212010d ago

I mean we already have a proper single player Fallout this generation. If anything the reason to be mad is we’re going to go a whole generation without an Elder Scrolls game and instead got 2 Fallouts. If the game sucks then it sucks. Maybe it turns out to be better than single player Fallout.

KukwesGaming2010d ago

You know they will still do a regular single player Fallout game in the future...why not let the people that love Fallout and multiplayer have their day. It's not even made by the same studio.

ziggurcat2010d ago

@karate:

You literally just answered your own question with the second half of that same question.

AdonisIsBeast2010d ago

I don’t see what’s wrong with people being able to play with a friend/friends in a franchise that they appreciate. I enjoyed RE5 just as much as 4 simply because I could tackle the campaign with a friend/family member

DanteVFenris6662010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

You do know Bethesda makes more then just elder scrolls and fallout right?

Bethesda released amazing titles last year such as prey, Wolfenstein 2, evil within and dishonoured dlc. All of which were heavily graphic and non glitchy games. Games that are all hella fun too

FITSniper2010d ago

@ziggurcat

In my 3 hours last night, I barely came across others and when I did, none of them attacked me. The game is hardly rife with griefers. Sure things may change in the future. But so might the anti-griefing mechanism. They could add the ability to opt out of all PvP damage if the community call for it is strong enough. So far though I haven't even been attacked by another player. Even as a pot shot.

ziggurcat2010d ago

@dante:

Those games you listed weren't developed by Bethesda, they were published. Other devs made those games.

@sniper:

That's fine if you don't think the game will be a grief fest. It will be, though... just a matter of time or the right instance you spawn into.

MasterCornholio2010d ago

@Skull

“Maybe it turns out to be better than single player Fallout. “

A lot of previews have been quite negative especially from YouTubers. Also I doubt it will be even close to New Vegas where quality is concerned. Heck I don’t believe it will be better than Fallout 4 in my opinion.

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UCForce2011d ago

Yeah, I think people have enough with Bethesda laziness this time around.

FunAndGun2011d ago

I truly believe if this was a SP Fallout sequel, complaints about old engine, bugs, and lazy development would be slim. MP only is the source of complaints it seems.

ziggurcat2010d ago

If they put any of this game's crap in the next, proper Fallout, I am done with this series.

Servbot412010d ago

If it was $20 DLC for Fallout 4 there would less complaints.

WANNAGETHIGH2011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

I will keep saying this over and over again. Fallout is Massively Overrated!! Bad controls, horrible graphics, horrible AI animation. I give the fallout franchise a 6/10 at best. Not bad but not near the hype people think the game is worth. When you see other open world games like the Witcher and Rd2 it makes you wonder why gamers keep giving Fallout a pass and not calling them out on there crap. We need to start calling out average games that are made irrespective of there developers “status”.

0hMyGandhi2011d ago

The Fallout games are anything but average. And this is coming from someone who only calls themselves a minor/moderate fan of their works. I can totally respect their world-building, lore and general extravagance when it comes down to bringing an entire city to fruition.

william_cade2010d ago

For all of their faults, New Vegas and Fallout 3 was/is a great game. Of course, Obsidian made New Vegas, but both 3 and NV has some great role-playing.

Shinkus2010d ago

Not for nothing but I played Witcher 3 on ps4 2 years after launch and had 3 glitches that required me to revert to an old save and 1 that they never even fixed. On top of around 8 chests I could never loot and my horse getting stuck under the map. People act like open world games don't have problems when they all do

bignosepig2010d ago

I think you're right, when I first played fallout 4 I thought it was a basic FPS but for singleplayer. But I think where all the hype is coming from is the magic in New Vegas and Fallout 3 that people have grown attached to.

hiawa232010d ago

Wait, so this is a multiplayer only Fallout? I rented it looking to try something new but I was hoping for a single player experience.

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0hMyGandhi2011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

Eh. While I am not the biggest fan of this particular iteration of Fallout, I think review bombing, in general, is incredibly stupid. It does not show anything but that people are averse to change and are actively judging something that cannot be judged on a short playthrough of the beta.

I am not even remotely a fan of this game, but I'd rather present my arguments in an actually useful manner to give the developers something to chew on rather than say "1/10...THIS AINT FALLOUT" like some overly entitled, self-aggrandizing "fanboy". Play the finished game, and then vocalize your disapproval. Doing it preemptively is foolish. It does not "teach them a lesson". It just makes them work that much harder to parse through the ACTUAL data from the game and player base to find out what the real gripes actually are within the design of the game itself.

william_cade2010d ago

I'm sure there is a lot of that but let's be honest, Bethesda charged 60 usd for what should be a free-to-play game.

Cobra9512010d ago

You can judge that:
- it's multiplayer, in a Fallout setting (which is all I need to reject it)
- it's devoid of NPCs and feels like a vast emptiness
- other players are not there to flesh out the world, but to do their own thing
- its nearly nonexistent story sucks

neutralgamer19922011d ago

Skull

That would be good only if the game actually worked. Game engine is the problem and Bethesda's refusal to create a new engine even for next Gen games is another underlying problem

JLYNN

No sir Bethesda refusing to confirm months after reveal that the game IS MP only is the reason behind the hate. For a while they said don't believe Lal the leaks or rumors even though all the leaks and rumors turned out to be true

The hate for FO76 is for

Bad game engine
Bad performance
No NPC's to populate the game
Extremely tight inventory weight limits

FPS_D3TH2010d ago

Let’s be serious for a thought.

Reviewers are likely not to follow suit because the ones review bombing are the ones who decided they were going to hate this game no matter what, not the people who thought they might enjoy it, decided to buy and immediately submitted their impressions to metacritic

EazyC2010d ago

I don't think it's surprising, people liked Fallout because it's NOT this..

agnosticgamer2010d ago

Read the poor reviews @Foxtrot and you will be disgraced for supporting the "review bombing" Review bombing is generally is when people have NEVER played the game and go on to write a poor review... I mean you see all the 0 and 1 scores and it's utter bullshit period... like 1 or 2 sentences and all of a sudden the games a 0? or a 1... your a disgrace for supporting review bombing as it's always held in negative connotation... Reviews from the editors and gaming sites will probably be a lot higher because they actually play the game... It's not always video games either there was a campaign to review bomb the movie Venom so some other movie could take the #1 spot... Review Bombing should never be encouraged.

Drakul2010d ago

Fallout is pure American culture dude, I can not imagine outside the USA Fallout game.

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Born2Game832010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

Its MC user reviews. Which are completely worthless. Anyone can give any rating and not show a single shred of proof they played even 5 minutes of the game.

yeahokwhatever2010d ago

I can tell you guys one thing, clearly nobody here has actually played it. It's not bad. in fact, it might even be kind of awesome. So far, all of the players ive met have been pretty friendly.

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lelo2play2011d ago

... and so it starts ... again.

fiveby92010d ago

Well at least it's cross-platform play..... oh wait. /s

Shikoku2011d ago

Its basically just fallout 4 online nothing new or interesting really.

Greg28012011d ago

Its even worse, atleast Fallout 4 had a story and Npc's

shadowraiden2010d ago

there is a story and NPC's though you run in to a lot of NPC's. i want to add how many of the really good NPC's in fallout 4 were Human NPC's i can think of none they was all generic shit NPC's. Fallout's humour has always been the random NPC's like the ghouls,super mutants and AI's, which there is plenty in fallout 76.

KukwesGaming2010d ago

it's a full on new fallout experience..so calling fallout 4 online is not accurate...adding to your inaccuracy is that this game has tons of NPC's and features lots of story and lore. Just because they are not human does not mean they are not a NPC. Having human npcs would break the experience since all the full on humans are just leaving Vault 76. I am sure we will see new quest in the future that have Vault 76 humans as they settle in. I also believe when the other vaults open up we will also engage other human NPCs. This is a live game that will evolve.

Shikoku2010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

Having played fallout, fallout 2, fallout 3 and fallout New Vegas fallout 4 and having played fallout 76 during the preorder beta its a full on fallout 4 experience with other people is the completely accurate way to describe the game. Its fallout 4 assets set in virgina and its called 76 there is the differences.

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DJStotty2010d ago

my thoughts exactly kukwes,

so so much room for expansion with this game, i think its solid so far

SegaGamer2010d ago (Edited 2010d ago )

I'm not a fan of the Fallout series, but I am getting tired of games companies just taking a popular franchise and making some crappy online spin off. If they want an online game, then why don't they just make one without attaching a popular name to it?

I'm not really into online games, but this was a good chance for Bathesda to create a new ip. This gen has been far too reliant on sequels, reboots and spin offs. Horizon is one of the only new games that has been really successful.

Shinkus2010d ago

Fallout is what got my brother into playing video games and we've wanted a way to play it together ever since, there are in fact people who wanted a fallout online

crazysammy2010d ago

Its marketing 101 man. Why try and build a new IP from scratch when you have a very strong existing IP that you can cash in on?

fiveby92010d ago

The existence of FO76 does not damage the ability to have a FO5 someday. Sure it's an MP game with up to 24 players on a map. Is the story weak? I don't know yet. I am not saying it's what everyone wanted nor as good as previous iterations of FO. But I am sure many if not most of the complaints from people on FO76 are from people who have not played the game but just watched streams or videos. It's ok to consider someone's opinion in that manner but take it for what it is. I have my misgivings about BGS mind you delivering games with many bugs or a seemingly outdated engine, but they are surely not alone in that practice. I bought the game for my X1x at a steep discount. Have not played it much yet but sure will try with some friends.

Profchaos2011d ago (Edited 2011d ago )

Funny thing is if the just did a fallout 3 anniversary edition with vr support as rumoured fans would have been quite happy and development costs would have been minimal

CaptainObvious8782010d ago

But then they couldn't bring in those juicy MTs into FO3 for idiots to keep buying.

Shinkus2010d ago

No because then the fans would complain that they did it with 3 instead of nv, the fans are never happy

ziggurcat2011d ago

... or maybe the game is just that bad?

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Square Enix Is Going Multiplatform; The Layoffs & Its Past Don't Inspire Confidence

After its latest games didn't meet sales targets, Square Enix is going multiplatform but the company's track record isn't convincing.

Scissorman19h ago

Square Enix been multiplatform for decades, a few exclusively-deals doesn't make them any less multiplatform.

fr0sty19h ago

Nor is selling their games on a console with only 25 million install base going to bring their sales to where they hope they will be... Unless they somehow manage to dumb down FF7 trilogy to work on switch, they aren't going to have much luck. They already released it on PC, after all.

anast7h ago

Where are you getting that number?

SegaSaturn66918h ago

It kind of does, giving preference to a certain platform by timed exclusivity. Console ports generally feel superior. Legend of mana PC port extremely broken

neutralgamer199218h ago

Sega

It doesn’t when square themselves didn’t want to fund the development of remake. It’s only after the success of the 1st they realized their mistake but now contract is signed. If it wasn’t for Sony there would be no FF7 remakes. Same goes for silent hill 2 with Konami. They don’t want to fund AAA budget. Companies like PlayStation and Nintendo get blamed when in reality they are saving some of these franchises

Remember sega didn’t want to fund bayonetta and epic games didn’t want to fund another gears of war. It’s easy to blame console makers but they are the ones taking the risk and paying huge upfront costs without seeing the final product. FF7 remake trilogy won’t be coming to Xbox now or in the future. PlayStation and PC is what square signed up for. Sony paid them more than they would make from Xbox sales.

ravens5218h ago

I just wonder when everyone is going to demand that the Square Enix exclusives with Nintendo come to PS and Xbox. Or it's just the PS exclusives that matter lol

phoenixwing18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

I'd love for the nintendo exclusives to come to pc or ps5. They'd actually be playable then.

neutralgamer199218h ago

Raven

Exactly and that’s where square enix does more exclusive than any other platform. Gaming is square has always been very unrealistic with their sales expectations. Remember when tomb raider reboot sold 7.5 million and square said it wasn’t enough. They need to spend less on development and have more realistic expectations from sales.

And those thinking games being not on Xbox makes a difference don’t understand we have a decade plus of data showing square enix games having less than 20% of their multiplatform sales on Xbox (final fantasy series) and Nintendo consoles aren’t strong enough to run any current games. Nintendo switch should be as strong as Xbox one x atleast but we all know that’s most likely won’t happen

RoadRacer17h ago

@raven

thing is, as neutral said in their comm, the switch isn't strong enough to run flagship SE games
i think what SE does is, it makes unique games for switch only so that it has something for that console too. Thats where all the "underlined sans" rpgs go to mostly

maybe things will change when Swtich 2 drops cuz that's gonna be as strong as ps4 afaik from the rumors flying around

TheGamingHounds18h ago

@Scissorman

Your point is valid enough but when the icon of this company is limited to one console in timed-exclusivity, it means the company has crossed the line. By some degree at least

All things aside, Square itself stated "aggressive multiplatform strategies" so we all know what it's talking about

Scissorman15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Then the headline should read "Square To Drop Exclusively Deals in Pursuit of A Sweeping Multiplatform Strategy". I don't recall this argument when Square Enix released Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, and Triangle Strategy on one platform. And even if FF is the icon, not all of its titles have gone to one platform. We're talking about three games, one of which is already on PC. Did Square suddenly go 'multiplatform' after it released subsequent Tomb Raider sequels on more than just the Xbox? It's just a silly way of putting it.

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TheGamingHounds18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

SE needs to go all in optimization. Broken PC ports won't help its case, especially with big releases like mainline Final Fantasy

Asterphoenix17h ago

It's actually simple. What doesn't inspire confidence is Square allocating their budgets on the wrong projects such as Forspoken, Avengers, Babylons Fall and Foamstars.

Square has always been multiplatform since PS3/360 days which 80 % of their games are. People kick up a fuss over PS exclusivity but not Nintendo which has more exclusive projects console exclusive from Square.

FF16 has done ok but not enough to fix the blunders that the past mistakes Square has made with some of their projects. FF7 Rebirth is unclear we'll see a PC release for sure so it's hard to say so far not as good as they would of liked.

Then again unrealistic expectations. If it weren't for Sony these games would at least had another 2 years development time. So some people need to be realistic in that regard.

Scissorman15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

It's the blunders that set those expectations so high. If you remove those from the equation, I bet the sales numbers would be more than stellar. Square believes it's okay to release a pile of risky, middling, garbage because the big boys will ultimately subsidize the cost. Don't worry if Forspoken sells poorly, FF16 will surely sell 10 million copies to balance that right out. Oh wait, it only sold like 4 million. Well that's a disaster. Meanwhile games that sell 2 million units with comparable budgets are deemed successful.

thorstein9h ago

I would also add that FFXVI, which I loved has a hint to one of their biggest problems: the number 16.

It's a great franchise, but that's all they've become known for. Dragon Quest is my favorite all time series but it's like they don't know what to do outside of those two IPs.

Valve never makes trilogies. The idea is that they don't want to become stagnant. Gabe Newell hates the number 3.

I can't imagine their talent wouldn't want to try a new RPG.

RoadRacer17h ago

Square Enix just really need to revise its expectations. Maybe consider a change in strategy on dev end as well. Multiplat will help for sure but only good games that are marketed well will sell

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