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Xbox: “We'll look back on 2016 as our tipping point”

Fresh momentum suggests that Xbox One has overcome its troubled launch

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darthv722737d ago

2016 has been a great year for the XB1. It is a worthy companion system to have.

GtR35olution2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

Sony sold 50 million ps4s in three years and they sell 2:1 or more ps4s more than xbox one worldwide on a monthly basis, facts. Npd is just America. Things will be worse november 2017 when ps4 is $250 and $350 for pro while xbox one will be $250 and $500 for scorpio imo.

There isnt any tipping point for microsoft except that theyve only managed to outsell the ps4 in one region a few times by mere thousands which is in america. While xbox one averages about 500k a month the ps4 is doing over one million or so a month so the xbox one selling 20k more than ps4 in npds is insignificant when ps4 wins monthly 2:1 worldwide every month. The xbox one hasnt cut into the ps4s overall lead at all when their competition outsells them by half a million monthly. Its like some talking about about xbox one selling 5k more then ps4 in the UK a few times but ps4 averages 3:1 more sales worldwide in europe. Some people never talk about worldwide because it would make any xbox one tipping point talk look silly

If scorpio is like i think itll be i think itll cost $600 because of the new tech but at that price itll barely move off shelves. Im hoping scorpio will be as powerful as i want because im willing to pay the higher price for more powerful console.

PistolsAtDawn2737d ago

Nothing you said refutes anything he said....stop being so insecure

Thatguy-3102737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

Regardless of your facts one can't congratulate MS enough for turning it around with the Xbox one this year. Yea when comparing it to ps4's sales there's no competition but that's not what they're talking about. This year they truly made a lot of strides whether people like it or not.

n4rc2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

Why does everyone now think Scorpio is some crazy showcase for new tech or something and it'll cost a fortune..

It's a low-mid grade PC by today's standards.. lol.. Rx 480 is about 6tf and under 300 RETAIL right now..

edit... its only impressive for the console space and all the hardware is currently available now at an affordable price.. they are partners with AMD and wont pay anything close to retail. they also dont go into production for awhile now so it only gets cheaper..

ShadowKnight2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

🙊🤔

christocolus2737d ago

@GtR35olution

Lol. Your post comes off as insecure. The Xbox One is still doing great just not as great as the PS4.

obidanshinobi2737d ago

They haven't sold 50 million, they have shipped 47 million to retailers.
Also MS have the lead in Brazil as the XB1 is about half the price of the PS4 over there due to MS having a manufacturing plant tin Brazil whereas Sony get stung by Brazil's ridiculous import taxes.

I own both consoles but I love driving games and space games, Elite Dangerous is amazing, so generally use my XB1 more though I'm currently playing Dishonored 2 on the PS4 and looking forward to the Last Guardian. Having both consoles gives you the best of both worlds.

marquisray2737d ago

It will be on my shelf i cant wait

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freshslicepizza2737d ago

it's all context. the ps2 did so well it crushed the competition into oblivion. the fact is the xbox one is still holding its own against a very well marketed product the ps4. that system is now hovering at about 50 million in just over 3 years so of course the xbox one does not appear to be doing wel in comparison but ask yourself, where is nintendo?

we all know sony fans seem to be the most apprehensive to give microsoft credit, they will even allow nintendo to fly under the radar as they point most of their negativity towards microsoft and the reason is simple, they are the most competitive to the playstation brand, not nintendo.

microsoft is also doing a much better job spreading out their titles but every time microsoft does something the critics continue to push the goalposts to something else.

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Ricegum2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

They've been selling the Xbox One for less than £150 all year, and Xbox One S for around £200 with two games & extra controller.

One would hope they are selling a bit more with those kind of prices. Makes you wonder how MS make any profit at all.

Yohshida2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

in germany they gave ps4 slims away for 196€, so both have those kind of deals and that system just came out. Pro is discounted 70€ and wasn't even out half a month.

mark_parch2737d ago

@ Unreal01
yep your right how dare microsoft rip us of with those amazing prices

Gazondaily2737d ago

"Makes you wonder how MS make any profit at all."

They must just be doing it for the lols....

Overload2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

Companies usually have a budget. If the margin tips in one area (console pricing) it will be recovered in another (game development). That is why they are selling the Xbox One so cheap, they are producing very little in house software. Since the software is selling only decently, I can't imagine they are turning much of a profit with the division.

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LastCenturyRob2737d ago

Its a worthy system regardless.

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Hoffmann2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

Not really. The xbox one is more or less obsolete if you have a PC and a PS4

@bluefox absolutely agreed

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Razzer2737d ago

Yep. I would have probably bought an Xbox One by now, but with Play Anywhere......why?

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FallenAngel19842737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

Even if Xbox One currently has a momentum, it's still selling slower than PlayStation 3 in the same timeframe, and the PS3 had a much more troubled launch than XO.

Just for reference, Sony's slowest selling console sold 33.71 million by the end of 2009. It remains unlikely that Microsoft's fastest selling console can beat that total by the end of 2016.

darthv722737d ago

while that is true... the XB1 will be MS 2nd best selling system while the PS3 will be sony's 4th (just to keep it in your perspective)

moegooner882737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

@darth wow, that shows how much work MS still has to do.

FallenAngel19842737d ago

@ darth

It still says a lot that Microsoft's best selling console can't sell more than Sony's worst selling console.

n4rc2737d ago

and amazing 10/10 games wont sell close to the worst COD game... whats your point exactly?

MRMagoo1232737d ago

@narc

what's yours first ? he's talking about consoles not games.

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freshslicepizza2737d ago

how important are those regions for you if a system doesn't sell that well? microsoft will continue to lose out on japanese niche games, so if those are appealing to you then the xbox will likely never be your choice but as far as western games the xbox competes very well in this field, much more than nintendo does.

n4rc2736d ago

What's mine? I made it pretty clear.. and it doesn't matter if it's games, consoles or phones, the point remains the same..

Selling the most doesn't mean you are the best, it means you were most popular... It can be both as well, don't get me wrong..

But grandmother's think all game consoles are "PlayStation" and it's been Synonymous with console gaming for 20 years.. just like a game like cod, Titanfall is a better game yet won't even come remotely close.. cod is a household name and it's name alone will sell.

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Automatic792737d ago

@Darth72

2016 has been a fantastic year. Further, not just 2016 but since launch MS has offered the best games Imo. To me its my primary console.

If you wonder why here are my reasons

Console Exclusives
Xbox Live
BC
EA Access
Controller

Next year Beam Streaming on Xbox live, smooth stream direct from Xbox live.

and this is just from a gaming perspective.

BizarroUltraman2737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

Its my main console, but Ive been playing more PS4 Pro lately and have a good collection of games with Pro features. So im kicking it on that.

My Xbox One still get the most plays, plus I do more than just game on it. Its my personal hub to be honest. Espn everything on it and all my movies, Amazon Prime account, Ea Access, Netflix, HBO im good. Only time I watch my TV is when Pats or Celtics are on.

Angeljuice2737d ago

XBox for TV, PS4 for games, it's what they were designed for after all.

I don't see why MS needs congratulations for turning anything around, they've been selling strongly from the start.
I think MS have started focusing more on the US lately, they have more control over public perception there and anything they achieve is magnified.

They haven't sold badly at all, at any point (if you don't compare them to PlayStation sales).

SpaceRanger2737d ago

Console exclusives?? Completely subjective. And since they only had three this year, it seems like it's hardly anything to boast about.

And controller? Lol gotta find something subjective to add to that list when there isn't much else.

Eterna1Ice2737d ago

Horizon 3, Gears 4, Quantum Break, Recore, FRU and Dead Rising 4 in a couple of days.

MRMagoo1232737d ago (Edited 2737d ago )

exclusives eternal not multiplats 😂😂😂

edit: I would but it's not in the dictionary....... i guess it's a made up thing to counter the fact xbone has no exclusives.

Eterna1Ice2737d ago

Try searching the definition of a console exclusive.

christocolus2737d ago (Edited 2736d ago )

@Michael

And don't forget Scorpio comes out next year. I'll be getting it day one.

@Angeljuice

Why do you care?All of a sudden you are interested in Scorpio and Xbox games? Huh?

@Captainobvious

Isn't it obvious? I am not a PC gamer.

Angeljuice2737d ago

Michael was talking about 2016, Scorpio won't be here until the arse end of 2017 (with the next wave of X1 "exclusives).

CaptainObvious8782736d ago

Why not save your money and get a gaming pc instead.

Cheaper games, better performing games, free online, more dedicated servers. It's a no brainer.

BizarroUltraman2736d ago

Angeljuice, was trolling the whole time. You gotta read between the lines.

Razzer2737d ago

Use the reply link, dude.

trooper_2737d ago

...What console exclusives?

Halo, Forza, Gears, Killer Instinct?

What about new IPs?

And how many people will use EA Access? How many will use BC? BC isn't a selling point. Exclusives are.

Microsoft still has a lot of work ahead of them after that DRM fiasco.

BizarroUltraman2736d ago (Edited 2736d ago )

You guys always leave off the new ips. Why? Theres others games besides Halo, Forza, Gears. Cant troll anymore if you ad those huh? And you sound so salty that you dont have those features xbox gamers are enjoying. Face it most if not all features added to Xbox are from consumer feedback. And dont forget external hard drive support and 4K blu-ray !!

trooper_2736d ago

So what are they?
I'm waiting.

By the way, disagreeing doesn't change anything I've said because facts are facts. They still have to do a lot more if they want to at least stay relevant.

CaptainObvious8782736d ago

The fact that you had to say 'console exclusive' instead of 'exclusive' really says it all.

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Kashima2737d ago

I don't need a console that doesn't get a support from japanese companies.

BizarroUltraman2737d ago

Then dont get one. Its your prerogative! Bobby said so.

Angeljuice2737d ago

One day's sunshine does not a summer make.

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BizarroUltraman2737d ago

In my opinion, the mess Xbox is in, in terms of sales. Is all Microsoft fault had nothing to do with Sony. They made some very big mistakes at E3, Kinect and price and that was nail in coffin for this gen. The Xbox is a very capable machine and does everything Microsoft said it would and more. With more stuff coming down the pipeline its on an upward trend. Im actually glad they turned around and now with this bit of momentum and can manage a great Scorpio preview at E3 or wherever they decide that would be boast well for the next console. Just keep doing their thing.

And they have a great line up of games and more coming.
Day One supporter still have the original model and a PS4 Pro. Lil Jon "YEAH".....

Most Anticipated Game: Death Stranding

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Evercade Alpha Reveals Affordable Mini-Arcade

This looks fun and affordable for fans of Retro Cabinet games.
Introducing Evercade Alpha, the first Evercade-compatible arcade machine. This bartop-sized arcade gives you everything you want in a home arcade machine with one big feature - full compatibility with the Evercade cartridge ecosystem.

darthv722d ago

I like the Mega Man one more as it has a better variety of games. Strider, Carrier Airwing, Final fight... The other is all SF. Plus i like that i can pop in any of my evercade carts to play as well.

Garethvk2d ago

As long as it is durable; it's a deal.

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Sony Says The PS5 Is Its “Most Profitable Generation To-Date"

During Sony’s recent business segment meeting and investor presentation regarding its game and network services, the PlayStation company revealed that PlayStation 5 is the company’s “most profitable generation to-date.”

It’s the top slide of the presentation, showing that in its first four years, the PS5 generation has already hit $106 billion in sales, having almost caught up to the PS4’s total $107 billion generated.

Operating income for the PS5 generation has also already surpassed that of the PS4, having now reached $10 billion.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I wouldn't doubt it. They released a high quality system. A lot of high quality games from themselves and their support of 3rd party developers and indies. They released many high quality remakes and remasters. They released a high quality GaaS game going against the naysayers thinking Sony would abandon single player games. And they most likely are profiting a lot more than PS1, PS2 PS4 and the loss leading PS3 that drained all their profits.

Now, I'll wait to see what's cooking tomorrow. But can you use some of those profits to better support your high quality VR headset? Because, by supporting it, you can sell more games and more systems and make more profits?

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I want RPGs for PSVR2! Good ones of course

shinoff21832d ago

If it had some rpgs I would buy right fking now. It looks dope and alot of fun, but it's biggest game resident evil 4(maybe) I've got no interest in. I'm not a fan of racing games, even with that metro game coming i was never much into that series. Rpgs would be fantastic.

MrNinosan2d ago

Lemme know if ya wanna play some Zenith 🙌
Bought it at release, but haven't played it more than 1-2 hours but for sure on my "todo list".

Cacabunga2d ago

Normal when they released mostly cross gen games so far. That’s a lot of money saved..
We haven’t seen what PS5 can do yet. 4years in and PS4 games still look great to me. The gen leap isn’t quite there yet.

--Onilink--2d ago

The interesting metric for me is the $106billion in operating income/profit (not sales as mentioned in the article) reaching the same as the PS4 did with only half the consoles sold.

In particular because they all are supposed to be making the most per hardware sold after a few years when manufacturing costs are down.

So even putting inflation aside(and the higher console price), it is interesting that they could reach PS4 $ with just half the consoles sold.

Maybe there is more to the metric thats whats seen at face value, but they have clearly been making a lot more money than before on the software side (with also less games released I suppose, given its only been half the generation so far)

VersusDMC2d ago

The bulk of the money has to be coming from the 30% cut on all games and microtransactions. Especially on all the free to play juggernauts like genshin, apex, fortnight, etc.

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@Versus

They are definitely making a lot on that for sure (which the $70 price increase factors into as well), but its not like many of those games werent around for the PS4 too.

They might be counting the gen as a whole and not just PS5 itself (so extra profit from PC sales, whatever that may be)

PS+ price increase and different tiers probably amount to part of that too.

But in general, its still quite a surprising metric. Half the time, half the consoles sold, less first party games released so far and still already making more of a profit than last gen is quite something, and as mentioned, there is probably more to it that we dont know, after all, since we are talking about operating income, all the expenses they have also factor into it, so it is also possible that they have found ways to significantly reduce that + all the means of increased revenue that appear to be factoring into the equation

All in all, just an interesting situation from a business perspective

porkChop2d ago

It's for the whole generation, so it would likely be including PC. They also make much more profit on digital sales vs retail, and digital is far more prominent these days. The generation also started at the height of COVID when everyone was home, spending far more money on gaming/hobbies. It makes a lot of sense for this gen to be more profitable.

Abnor_Mal2d ago

This will surely shut up all the new trolling accounts trying to spread lies and non facts in other articles comment sections before this article is posted.

Hofstaderman2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Obscurely, those trolls or troll will not show in these articles as the truth is contradictory to his or their orchard-sized daily dose of copium and hopium.

Tacoboto2d ago

Or... They're intentionally trolling you guys specifically. Because they know it upsets you so easily.

Name-dropping Orchard, after this many months? How long has it been and he's still in your thoughts?

Elda2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I'm quite sure the individual is reading these positive comments downvoting & seething at the same time. Edit: It just downvoted my comment...lol!!

Hofstaderman2d ago

No I'm entertained by this individual. I love unhinged people, they are so interesting lol.

repsahj2d ago

Wow! I am super impressed that in just 4 years, ps5 already caught up to the PS4's. Congratulations.

JackBNimble1d 19h ago

That happens when half of your games are cross platform. I'm still waiting to see what the ps5 is capable of, because they sure haven't pushed any limits.

And where are all these ps5 exclusive games?

sagapo2d ago

Not really surprised as Sony barely has any competition at the moment.

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Zotac To Reveal Their Portable Gaming PC At COMPUTEX 2024

This sounds like a very interesting mobile gaming PC. ZOTAC returns to COMPUTEX 2024 to showcase its biggest push yet into brand-new product categories from Handheld Gaming.

smashman982d ago

My last 2 gpus have both been zotac. No issues. I'm interested.

Garethvk2d ago

It will be interesting to see what they have to offer