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This Is How Much Money You’d Spend if You Bought Every 2015 Season Pass

While several of the big releases this year such as Halo 5 and Bloodborne hit shelves without the added expense of a season pass, many other major titles gave customers the option. So just how much money could fly from your wallet in 2015 for this additional content?

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itsjustexuma3113d ago

The only Season Passes I've purchases this year are Batman Arkham Kinght and Fallout 4 season passes

OC_MurphysLaw3113d ago

I pulled the trigger on The Witcher 3 and Rise of the Tomb Raider. The key for them for me was the promise of more single player content not multiplayer map packs.

jb2273113d ago

The Tomb Raider decision was an odd one then because there is only one single sp dlc in the form of the Witch tomb...the rest is mp & challenge stuff...they detailed it all when they announced it...you probably could've saved $15-20 bucks just waiting for the actual content to release.

InactiveUser3113d ago

I've never purchased a season pass and don't plan on ever buying one. It's a rip-off. Now you're expected to pay $110 for a full game instead of $60. F 'em, I'll wait until the complete edition is ~$15.

conanlifts3112d ago (Edited 3112d ago )

The Witcher 3 season pass is probably the best around. I loved the first pass, I have played shorter games than the first expansion. I am considering the fallout pass too, but not sure what they are including yet.

Player3Podcast3113d ago

Legitimate curiosity about Batman, how nervous were you purchasing it when they hadn't revealed the details? And was it worth it in the end?

itsjustexuma3113d ago

I wasn't nervous I kinda trusted Rocksteady because they did the last two games right and it really wasn't worth it because instead of giving the players more story content they just kept releasing short story missions and a lot of those challenge add ons

PX543113d ago

The only season pass I bought this year (and ever) was Arkham Knight, and that's only because I got the game including the season pass for just £25 at launch.

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Jmanzare3112d ago

@eejlp
Its not a rip off if you plan on getting them all anyway, you usually get a discounted price for purchasing them ahead of time.

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Thom94343113d ago

I've never bought a season pass. Screw that.

PizzaSteve3113d ago

Yeah me neither. Too bad others fail for the trap.

jb2273113d ago

No doubt...it's a lot easier for me because I don't play mp, so I just wait until they actually release any sp content & buy it piecemeal....there's typically only one sp component for every $20-50 dollar season pass, & I get it for 10 bucks if it reviews decently enough or if I just dig the game enough not to worry about impressions.

nitus103113d ago (Edited 3113d ago )

But, but, but you get really good value for season passes. You get??? ...?? ...? err! a few extra maps if you are lucky, some extra weapon skins, clothing skins and maybe if you have been a good boy/girl extra quests which you could have brought later as an expansion or DLC anyway. ... err!

Yep Thom9434 had it right first time "Screw that".

nix3113d ago

I also never buy.. But Driveclub n Bloodborne are two games for which I've bought DLC/extensions.

GordonKnight3112d ago

@ PizzaSteve

You really should thank the people that purchase DLC. DLC is how companies make these huge budget games and still turn a profit. If it wasn't for the people who purchase DLC, games would cost $100 at launch instead of $60.

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conanlifts3112d ago

Depends on the pass. The Witcher 3 pass includes 2 expansions, the first being 10 hours long, the second most likely double that. That's more gameplay than most games offer to begin with.

But yes most are worthless and a rip off.

MrCrimson3112d ago

I bought COD Elite way back in the day, that was the last and only time.

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DanielEndurance3113d ago

Picked up Syndicate's & Black Ops III's season passes this year... Might get Siege's too.
There's probably going to be 25% more season passes next year at this rate.

Player3Podcast3113d ago

I think we are going to see a lot of people migrate towards the microtransaction model like Halo 5.

Slevon3112d ago

I hope so, I handle people being able to buy cosmetic items in game while i can still earn them to get free maps/updates.

USMC_POLICE3113d ago

Did you see what's in sieges pass? Almost nothing

Crispyleeks3113d ago

Witcher 3 and Fallout 4. I played it safe but damn I have no regrets with Witcher. By the sounds of Fallout 4's season pass I won't get burned by that either.

Player3Podcast3113d ago

The Witcher 3 seemed like the best value for the money!

wheatley3112d ago

I bought the same. Fallout games have done well with their expansions before, and the Witcher team's philosophy on DLC meant I could trust them from the outset.

Jmanzare3112d ago

Me too. Bethesda always does dlc right.. Besides horse armor

JOKERACN73113d ago

Videogames are already expensive, can't afford season passes tbh ...
Good Expansion Packs like The Witcher 3's worth it tho.

_-EDMIX-_3113d ago

Video games are actually factually less money now then 10 years ago.

Expansion packs are like games, they are "Good" based on subjectivity of the end user. Some where to some gamer, a season pass is "worth it" if you spent 500 hours in BF4, you might say its season pass was worth it.

I didn't get BF4's season pass due to only playing 200 hours in it which is light for me on the BF scale, but lots of titles in 2014 and 2015 kept lots of my time, I put that 200 in MOST of it around PS4's launch, but during 2014 played and focused on other titles.

It depends, if I played more of it and seeked to continue long term like in other BFs, I might have bought the season pass and put another 400 or so hours in it as even 100 extra hours to me for $50 is more then worth it.

Consider again, we factually due to inflation have cheaper games now then years before and are in a medium that is the most value worthy out of any other. How many times will you watch a film? But for $20 or so you might get it on Bluray, DVD etc and I'm not putting you on spending 100 hours watching it over and over in 6 months to a year lol.

Nothing is wrong with season passes in terms of price anymore then the prices of games. The user really defines what that is to themselves more so.

The value of The Witcher 3 to you, might differ then other gamers, consider that also applies to season passes or any post launch content.

ShottyGibs3113d ago (Edited 3113d ago )

You're not wrong. But people have less disposable income than 10 years ago. Tax, rate increases and the cost of living have far outpaced wage increases year on year.

Not only that, if you're in living in the US (I'm not) as the majority of posters here are, you guys currently have 0.25% interest rates for years (post 08 crash) and are looking at possible negative interest rates in the very near future. But I digress. I doubt they are going to reduce the cost of games based on this. Do you?

Tankbusta403112d ago

Will people stop this inflation garbage? Salaries have not crazily gone up with inflation so it's a non argument. Ten years ago the minimum wage was still the same and if you were making 25 dollars an hour it didn't increase to 35

_-EDMIX-_3112d ago

@Shotty- "I doubt they are going to reduce the cost of games based on this. Do you?" No, that is likely not going to happen they are more likely going to raise it them lower it.

"But people have less disposable income than 10 years ago. Tax"

I just don't see any evidence to support much of this, if someone games, they will find the income. The reality is, for 10 years, we've had games for $60.

http://kotaku.com/36-years-...

and

http://www.ign.com/articles...

and

http://arstechnica.com/gami...

@Tank- Because economical facts... The reality is, games have cost $60 for 10 years whole over all costing more to create, the top most expensive games made of all time where made in the last 10 years. Mind you, that is merely the ones that even report their cost to the public, consider Konmai didn't regarding MGSV and reports of 80 million are rumored, but over the course of 7 years development, with inflation its actually around 100 million.

So they made 170 million on MGSV, they could use that 100 million to pay back their loan, a couple million more in interest and might be left with 70 or 60 million, its not enough to make another MGS, they even made comments regarding they would need finical support for the next MGS game.

Games have hit RECORD sales, yet have also cost MORE yet made less due to inflation. Its not a subjective idea, its a factual one. You can actually look that up. I'm buying MORE games now, then 10 years ago.

http://www.usinflationcalcu...

Mind you, with the cost of gaming to develop, I would wage its really around $100 per game for them to get a respectable profit to create a second title. Many need to factor its not about JUST breaking even, they have operating cost and most times need to pay back loans for a huge project on top of interest.

Muzikguy3112d ago (Edited 3112d ago )

You post a great comment Edmix. I have to agree with Shotty and Tank though. Yes games haven't gone up in price over the last decade. Everything else has though. Not only that, healthcare (at least in the US) has almost doubled too. They can tout all they want to about the prices, but the fact is to many of us, they're still high. That's why things like Gamefly exist. Games on the cheap. Can even buy them cheap from them. I got Shadows of Mordor for $15 and Dragon Age Inquisition for $12 ^_^

I'd have gladly bought them both new, but I can't afford to pay $60 for every game out there that interest me. And for the record I'd rather buy at GF than GameStop because they don't put all those stupid stickers on the cases. Had wages increased with cost of living I'm sure people would be spending more on full priced games

Edit: I also just want to say that if Konami did make $60 or $70 million profit that's more than enough to make the next game. Unless they don't think they'd make the $30 to $40 million dollars needed to cover just the cost. Of course, they'd make more than that and still turn a profit. It's not like they're making multiple MGS style games each year that cost $100+mil to make :)

And in all fairness, I wouldn't feel sorry for Konami anyway

_-EDMIX-_3112d ago

@ Miz- "I'd have gladly bought them both new, but I can't afford to pay $60 for every game out there that interest me"

That sounds more like specific situation. The reality is, we have games that broke records in sales year over year and the evidence of high sales don't support the idea that they are too expensive, it states just the opposite.

"but the fact is to many of us, they're still high"

Nope. What do you have to support that idea though? Again...consider the records Fallout 4 just broke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

Now...consider MOST of the all time list has happened in the last 10 years of the best selling.

GTAV a perfect example, full price, 54 million units.

The reality is, you might be in a situation where you can't afford full price most times, that fine, but thats also situational. The reality is, the facts surrounding current game sales don't support that "most" can't afford it.

PS4 just hit 30 million units...again...we have more money to buy such things then 10 years prior. Consider both PS4 and XONE are hitting record sales.

" I also just want to say that if Konami did make $60 or $70 million profit that's more than enough to make the next game"

It is if you consider they could just use the same engine to save cost. The point is if the wanted to make another MGS using a new engine and need to spend another 80 to 100 million, they would be unable to without taking deep loans. Could they, yes....does it make sense given the high production quality? Maybe not. Its the reality that they can't even with millions of units due to the price saying the same.

"And in all fairness, I wouldn't feel sorry for Konami anyway" irrelevant, merely using an example of a AAA game in terms of profit and development cost. Though I feel the needed to assess their cost and have DLC to make up that cost if they want to get a bigger profit, I'm merely pointing out that they even need to do that if they wish to make another game for 100 million.

Consider....they need to do that JUST to make another game using 100 million.

Record sales of games show MORE are buying games then in any time ever in gaming. Yet we are still paying the same price since 10 years ago. We either need to raise the base price of games to $80 or $100 or get use to DLC and Seasons passes. We can't go another 10 years with games at $60 without either happening.

Muzikguy3112d ago (Edited 3112d ago )

@Edmix

I get what you're saying but I think you're only looking at half the scenario. Yes, games break records. Yes, year over year they sell and sell more. That doesn't mean people are happy with the cost of are willing to keep paying it. Look at the series that break records. They're all the same and have been for a long time. Not only that, they're released on like 10 different platforms (exaggerated). You also have to account for a growing gaming user base. When you factor all that in, the records aren't really saying much. Even more so when things that sell millions are still considered failures (which I don't exactly agree with, but financially is a different story)

I do see games going up in the future but other things need to happen as well. Gwmes are supposed to be getting easier with the PC based stuff and everything so I'm not really seeing that as a viable excuse. When companies hold certain games in limbo for so long (like versus13) that's their fault not mine or yours. And Konami makes tons of money off mobile games to more than make up for one big AAA game if they wanted to do that. I can't tell a company how to manage their money :)

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@Miz- "Yes, year over year they sell and sell more. That doesn't mean people are happy with the cost of are willing to keep paying it"

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I'm sorry but this is where a number shows otherwise. They like it enough to buy games at record numbers, I get many want things for free, but real market value is not based on if you want, its based on what people for a mater of fact will spend on a game. Those records show most will, of course a few want to pay nothing for games and want them all for free, but that isn't being debated. Its based on the majority, not a few. Could that not apply regardless of the price of games? Do people not steal even items that are at low cost? Someone not agreeing with the price really has nothing to do with its real market value.

Record sales again show otherwise.

"Konami makes tons of money off mobile games to more than make up for one big AAA game if they wanted to do that. I can't tell a company how to manage their money :)"

I don't disagree with that all at, but we are saying yes or no to what is being offered. If we feel the price isn't worth the product due to price being based on the companies shortcomings, we are free to not buy the title.

Don't disagree with that either as the market is based on consumer choice.

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There are no "thoughtful" ads in video games, EA

There are no thoughtful ads in Video Games, EA. Leave them be.

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northpaws16d ago

I think the only type of games that can gets away with it would be sport games, having those sponsors ads on the side like on real life.

But don't put freaking Doritos ads in Star Wars or something, it breaks the immersion. If it is a pop-up ads, then big no.

Hofstaderman16d ago

EA can thoughtfully eff themselves.

Makersbreath216d ago

EA coming back for the crown of being perceived as the worst company in gaming.

Chocoburger15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

One of my favorite series is the THPS franchise, and it was packed with ads, but it didn't bother me. Posters for skateboard companies, JEEP, and Nokia phones. It did sort of fit in with the game world, but that was the past, these days ad would be intentionally intrusive or unskippable loading screen type of imagery. Ugh, I know EA would do it in a horrible fashion. Screw them.

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Fallout 4 – Next Gen Update 2 Notes

A new update is now available for Fallout 4. This update adds the ability to manage your control over graphic fidelity or performance and addresses some further stability and visual issues.

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Tacoboto19d ago

How nice of them to give us more control over graphical settings as a way to *completely* avoid taking accountability for the broken Xbox settings.

bondsmx19d ago

Well, I still crashed like 5 times last night within two hours. So there’s that.

anast18d ago

I had to stop. The game is not good. I'd rather play Skyrim and that game isn't that good either.

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Report: Sexual Misconduct Investigation Conducted at EA, Suspects Named and What They Did Revealed

EA senior staff has been investigated for sexual misconduct involving female coworkers, and these said people have been named publicly.

isarai22d ago

Aye just call Phil, i mean he somehow made Bobby Kotick's scandal disappear and gave him a few million dollar high five on the way out.

Cacabunga21d ago

I wonder if it will be censored with some in game ads.

MrBaskerville19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Microsoft did, Phil Spencer played a minor part. He instigated the buyout that led to Kotick escaping all his controversies while getting a golden handshake.

Someone on Twitter calculated that the people hired in Tango and Arkane Austin could get a decent salary for roughly 17 years for the money Kotick was paid.

InUrFoxHole19d ago

Yeah some thing tells me Kotics $ was already guaranteed before MS made the deal. As for the studios... Let's be honest here... none of those studios made system sellers.

XiNatsuDragnel22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

EA about to go down like Activision and then Phil saves the day saying.this is good for the industry and consolidation will help create competition. /s.

MrBaskerville19d ago

Then they shutdown Codemasters and studio behind Jedi Survivor.

Atleast they could hardly do much damage that EA hadn't allready done. EA has shut down most of their studios by now.

ravens5221d ago

What's up with all these horny creeps. You gon be horny, fine. Just not at work take care of that shit before you go in. Rub one out if you have to. Don't be a creep at all. ESPECIALLY at work. But don't be one AT ALL.

Extermin8or3_21d ago

I mean part of the issue is that things transpired outside of work....

MrBaskerville19d ago

That's the thing he mentioned about not being a creep at all.

KwietStorm_BLM21d ago

You think deviants care where they are? Work sometimes makes it an even better situation for them because they can abuse their power.

mudakoshaka21d ago

Nerds think they are Gods when they are making video games.

NotoriousWhiz21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

"it seems that according to EA, given the events transpired outside of work between two adults, and the fact that once investigation has started that the alleged perpetrators didn’t do it again, the investigation is considered closed. [...] The victim still has to work with the people that harassed her."

Yep, EA is disgusting.

Extermin8or3_21d ago

I mean the fact stuff happened outside of work puts EA in quite a difficult position legally. These women don't seem to have reported the matter to the police which kinda ties EA's hands on what they can do. If they don't file reports of the crimes then yeah from EA's perspective it is stuff that happened outside of work. The only exception is the guy that apparently referenced things in the slack channel for work, spending on what he said proving it may be very hard and he may well be able to get away with plausible deniability. I don't like EA and I think these people need to be dismissed but without any legal action being taken, EA can't really do much without risk of being sued themselves for unfair dismissal etc.

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