Hey Ubisoft, 5 Hours? Keep That Sh*t!

Ironstar writes: "Today your average single player campaigns lasts roughly around 8 hours to 11 hours depending on difficulty, there are many titles that support this claim. We've seen so many great games have savory campaigns without getting repetitive; I don't understand why a long existing franchise like Splinter Cell can only pump out a shallow 5 hour single player experience."

[xTruthx]

Ill get this game for the mp rlly, the only thing that worries me is that there has only been two reviews and the game comes out Tuesday

[Anon1974]

Personally, I won't buy a game with so short a single player campaign. I skipped Heavenly Sword, I skipped that Halo expansion priced like a full game and I won't be giving this game my hard earned money when there's games like Battlefield 2, Borderlands, Demon Souls that will actually give me my money's worth. Not to mention all the big heavy hitters we've seen come out recently like GOW3, Heavy Rain, Final Fantasty, etc.

There's a lot of games competing for my gaming buck. You have to do better than this, Ubisoft.

[soxfan2005]

I seem to recall comments made about the lenght of another recent high-profile exclusive. The concensus by fans of that game seemed to be along the lines of:

"A true fan won't just rush to the end, they will take their time in order to experience everything".

I'm sure the same will apply here as well.

[presto717]

Just saying....

I've always loved stealth games so I'll have to try this out sooner or later. Speaking of which, when the hell is the next Hitman game coming out. Cleard Blood Money ages ago!!!!

[-Mezzo-]

I am a big fan of the series since the very first title which means i will purchase this title anyway, but this is very,very disappointing.

All this time in development and 5 hours is all we get. Up Your's Ubisoft.

[kaveti6616]

I also am surprised that they worked so long to deliver a 5 hour experience, as fun as it may be. I agree that spending 65 bucks on such a short game is just irresponsible. I myself am hesitant to spend 65 bucks on even God of War 3 though it's 12 hours.

The multiplayer component for Conviction shouldn't be used as a defense of its price, either, because the devs left of out one of the more beloved Splinter Cell game types: Mercs v. Spies.

This game is just not worth a retail purchase. Either find a good deal on the net or wait for the bargain bin.

[Abriael]

The difference here is that the other "recent high profile exclusive" was around 9-10 hours, which is in the average nowadays, not to mention that Splinter Cell isn't really high profile.
I wouldn't go calling some sub-hd mediocre metal gear solid wannabe title "high profile".

[sparta76]

5 hours long!?
Don't tell me that!
Why did ign give it such a high score? Was it because muti player..?
Isn't the single player the most important part of the game?
Still getting it I have payed for, I preorderd..
But still 5 hours is TOO short. Hopefully is longer then that

[Fanb0y]

Neogaf poster CloakedPuppet is saying that it look him about 10 hours on his normal playthrough.

Some other people are saying similar things.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/f...

I think the IGN reviewer is not human.

[ABizzel1]

One thing he said in the article really stood out to me.

"Great single player titles are something I believe Xbox 360 lacks. Although there are existing franchises like Mass Effect and Fable that feature amazing campaigns and campaigns only, multiplayer titles on Xbox 360 seem like the top priority."

This is as true of a statement if I've ever heard one. It's also happening on the PS3 more, however, Sony's exclusive titles keep the focus on Single Player first. The single player is the most important part of the game to me, because I play games for 2 reasons besides entertainment: The gameplay, and the Story. And it seems that games on the 360 are dumping story for gameplay and online which is fine for some games, but I prefer having a good story over a pointless shoot 'em up.

[EvilBlackCat]

funny how some people critize 5 hour long games but then act like there is no 5 hours long games on their side of the fence.

BY THE WAY PEOPLE I OWN GoW3 and is fncking short.

[Bathyj]

Wasnt Ubi bragging about how long this game will take to finish?

Were they only talking about the MP and Co-op?

Please someone tell me at least that Co-op can be played in Single player, like RB6 Vegas 2. At least that lends some longevity.

Dammit, I love this game, and I'm getting it, but it needs to be longer than that. If I finish it on my second sitting I may return it and get my money back, which is a shame. I'd rather play it over and over again.

And I dont really blame Ubi, they are simply blowing where the wind takes them. Its all you clowns instisting EVERYTHING has to have a deathmatch attached to it. The focus now days is on online so they can sell you more map-packs.

Single player is dying, thanks to you lot. If I wanted to play against someone else, I'd be outside playing cricket or something.

Sorry to come off so angry, but how many games have to get crippled by this over attention to MP before someone says something?

[mikeslemonade]

The single player is going to suck no matter what. COD, BFBC, RB6, etc. all have crappy single player. What matters is the multiplayer and too bad the multiplayer here is going to have sucky replay value. The multiplayer player vs player is 1 vs 1 and it has coop. The amount of content sucks. Team vs Team is what adds replay value in these kinds of games.

[Rainstorm81]

You loyalists are really a joy to watch....the hypocrisy is phenomenal.

I beat GOW3 in 8-8 1/2 hours on my first playthrough.....Thats by no means a long game but 5 hours are you kidding me?

Weren't all you xbox loyalists crying about GOW's length? (IGN was 4 sure) Well here's a shorter game cry about that as well.

OH and before you guys come back with your "b-b-b-ut the MP & Co-op"

Splinter cell is a single player game first and foremost, always have been and it seems it wont necessarily always will be.

A 5 hour single player campaign isnt worth 60$ on any system.

EDIT:
"The only reason to hesitate and pick this up is if you only care about the single-player story and want nothing to do with anything else Conviction has to offer. If that's the case, then there's not a lot of game to be had. And also, you're nuts. The best parts of Conviction are the experiences you have long after you've left Sam Fisher behind." - IGN

Basically your nuts if you dont care about online MP and buy this game. When did being hypocritical become the new thing???

[Lou-Cipher]

Well said

It really is a shame single player is getting snuffed out by MP. What sucks even worse is the fact that motion controls are going to dumb down our games even more. There sure is a bunch of bull$hit going on this gen.

[Hudahudahuda]

I don't really find game length to be a big problem at all actually, as long as it packs enough will designed content I would rather spend money on that instead of having a bloated game with repetition, boring gameplay and pointless mini sidequests.

I probably won't be buying splintercell conviction, because splinter cell is the poor man's MGS and because I have a feeling it will come to PS3 without locking me out of multiplayer. Regardless, it's length would not be a reason.

[IHateYouFanboys]

Redrum059,

the resolution of a game has NOTHING to do with how long the game is.

[Sarcasm]

Hilarious. Weren't some folks complaining about MGS4 being a 5 hour game?

[IdleLeeSiuLung]

It does have an additional co-op mode that should take at least 5 hours to complete so without the multi-player component it is 10-hours long which most will spend more time than that.

I guess, you could spend hours grinding through a boring game or you could spend 5 quality hours. Your choice!

Although I prefer to have a longer game, I will take the latter.

[badz149]

actually there is a relation between resolution and length! both have something to do with disc space. lower resolution means, smaller file size and shorter games also means smaller file size! the same image at 576p have 20% less pixels than 720p! although that may not directly translate to 20% more space, in a same amount of space, you can put more stuff at 576p compared to 720p! which means, for same size, you can make longer games at 576p compared to 720p!

I know that they utilized the extra space for co-op and MP but 5H campaign? come on!!

[ReservoirDog316]

Ok, everyone who recognizes my name or just looks through my comment history knows I love the SC games. I was really looking forward for conviction.

But when I saw that it's only 5 hours long (bare in mind, I don't have XBL), I cancelled my preorder on amazon.

I realized there's 6 games coming out next month that I want to get (Alan Wake, Red Dead Redemption, SMG2, Modnation Racers, 3D Dot Heros and MGS PW) and I can only get 2. But since I cancelled my preorder, I can get 4.

Love SC but it just isn't worth it without XBL.

[pimpmaster]

well the diffrence is the gameplay style, in classic splintercells you watch the guards and slowly stalk and take them out, leading to longer gameplay. in this splintercell u just press Y and it kills everyone on the screen, then you run to your next area with no worries cause youve killed everyone.

[JonnyBadfinger]

5 hours? thats a little on the short side aint it?

OR perhaps a certain someone in particular is bulls***ing everyone, trying to wage yet another unjust and unreasonable flame war... im just saying.

Honestly the length of the game isnt so much as a problem, its the quality of the story... no one wants to sit through a 12hr borefest of a campaign. I say if the story is GOOD and interesting the length is irrelevant. Its like movies, did you really want to sit through all that BS in 'James Cameron's Avatar' where all you needed to see was the first 45 mins and the last 20mins to understand it? or 'Titanic' a story about a lady crying Jack every 10mins and a boat that takes 3 hours to sink?

As long as the story behind the game is of a high caliber the length of the game means little.

And as if the Splinter Cell games had replay value anyway...played 1 stealth shooter and you've played em all, same with FPSs, TPSs, RPGs Racing.

People keep looking for the next game to revolutionize gaming when no is smart enough to realise its all been done already. You people are expecting too much from gaming, its a hobby not a profession... its meant for nothing more than passing the time. Not changing the universe as you know it.

[coolfool]

they saw that if Modern Warfare 2 could sell with a short campaign then Splinter Cell could as well? I mean, no one seems to have a problem with the length of MW2 (looking at the sells).

[morganfell]

@Sarcasm, no not really. Most play-thoughs WITHOUT cutscenes were still 15-19 hours.

But many people did decry the game for anything they could snatch out of thin air.

[IHateYouFanboys]

@badz149,

youre assuming that firstly the game is taking up the entire disk, and secondly that the majority of the disk is filled with level data. youd be incorrect on both.

i could knock you up an XBLA game in XNA that is 1mb in size but literally has thousands upon thousands of hours of gameplay. alternatively, i could knock you up an XBLA game in XNA that is 1gb in size but only features a single room that is rectangular with nothing in it, with a start point and an end point, and its on rails so you can never take more than 5 seconds to finish the entire game.

file size has very little influence on the length of a game. that depends on production time, design, the story, and the cost of development. if you REALLY think that going from 720p to 576p means that you get more gameplay hours youre not even worth arguing with.

@morganfell,

if you took 15-19 hours NOT INCLUDING cutscenes to complete MGS4, you must absolutely suck at video games. its a 8-9 hour game at the VERY VERY VERY most once you remove the cutscenes. i personally did it in 17 hours INCLUDING all 11 hours of cutscenes on normal difficulty first go, taking my time to explore.

[Ocelot525]

"Redrum059,

the resolution of a game has NOTHING to do with how long the game is."

he's RIGHT and the people who disagree know nothing about computer graphics( like badz149)

only the resolution of PRERENDERED movies fill disk space

[tinybigman]

since i'm not really a multiplayer type person single player experiences are more important to me. so ill just wait for my friend to get me a free copy.

i see some people here saying they beat GoW3 in 8 1/2 hrs i know this couldnt have been on titan mode as it took me 15 hrs to beat on that mode. looks like a lot of people werent up for the challenge and took the easy way out with easy or normal.

either way im just glad the game is getting reviewed good because double agent sucked monkey balls.

[Syronicus]

Sorry, but 5 hours for 60 bucks is pathetic. Then you have to pay for Live to even play the online portion so you are getting even double screwed. Way to go Ubisoft!

[NewZealander]

i was going to get the collectors edition, but im just going to rent for the weekend instead, five hours is an outrage.

i hope the game bombs now, theres no way people should be paying full price for a five hour game, and yes i know theres the co-op, but i only wanted this for the single player, and at five hours it may as well be dlc.

[badz149]

if the resolution has nothing to do with length space-wise, then that means that Ubi planned the game to be short from the get go which makes it even sadder! if the future of gaming are short campaigns plus MP, it will be a very very sad future!

[Rainstorm81]

According to people in here, its not that everyone complaining would hate to see games become 5 hrs its that we are "butt hurt" and "jealous" that splinter cell is only on 360 for the time being.

1. I have a 360 so.... i guess im a butt hurt 360 owner cause i dont like getting raped by companies.

2. I would hate to see all my fav games (companies) start to opt out for a short campaign because they know that fans will eat it up.

Im a fan of Splinter Cell played all of them and 5 hours is abyssmal. Games like Cod set a precident, you can make a short campaign and sell very well as long as MP is there. With the numerous games releasing in May from alan wake to Red Dead Redemption, ill just save my money for a another experience.

Why would PS3 fans be jealous? MGS is on PS3. The same site everyone praises for giving GOW3 and SC:C a 9.3 gave MGS4 a 10. So if you put stock in IGN's opinion, MGS is the definative Stealth action title.

But thats probably using too much logic for this site.

@ jonnybadfinger
So by YOUR logic, Avatar and Titanic shouldve been 1 hour and 5 min???

WoW just WoW!

[HolyOrangeCows]

After all the years of delays, that's all they could do?
Oh! But teh multiplayer! Oh....it doesn't even have the fan favorite spies vs mercs.

[Inside_out]

He hasn't play the game, releases on Tuesday....BUT...based on a review, the game is 5 hrs long...So, posts a dumb headline for hits...The game might turn out to be 5 hrs long...wouldn't shock me...the game also has multi-player/co-op campaign...the review he based his comments on said he played the game 3 times...BUT...on easy/normal difficulty....This guy is a loser Fan boy attempting to hurt this game by posting this garbage the day before the game releases while making claims against 360 games...GOW3 is really short with NO multi player or co-op...lol...he should talk about games like that...Moving on....

[execution17]

was tempted to buy it but i'll pass; i thought stealth genre games are usually long?

[Christopher]

If it's a good game, it's a good game, regardless of the total hours it takes to play the single-player campaign. There are various multiplayer game modes as well.

If you're a hardcore single-player gamer only, perhaps you don't want to play this until it hits $30, otherwise I don't think the length of the single-player campaign should greatly affect your desire to play the game.

[Redrum059]

Ok fine, if resolution doesn't effect disk space then why does this game not run at a higher res or hav better graphics? Mw2 runs at 600p with better graphics and it has more content than scc(I think)

[xTruthx]

Btw its not like ill be paying for this Lol, cus I don't see how some one would pay a full price for a 5 hour campaign

[wicko]

Actually, that isn't true. It really has nothing to do with the resolution. The resolution that *really* matters is texture resolution. While it is possible that texture resolution was reduced, there is no direct relation between image size (the size of the disk image) and rendering resolution. Rendering 20% less pixels does not really mean anything in terms of filesize.

[duplissi]

@presto717

thats irrelevant... having multiplayer should have no bearing on it at all... its such a bullsh*t excuse games use these days... the single player is so short a squishy fart lasts longer but hey thats ok because it has multiplayer... really that is just bullsh*t in ten years you decide to pick up a few old games cause you missed them when the online is no longer supported and you wont be thinking its ok.

[lukewind]

What utter Sony fanboy crap this article is!

Lets remember that God of War 3 was only 6-8 hours long, and you didn't hear people complaining about that, why? Because it was a great game.

Let's add on the additional co-op campaign alongside the various MP modes and we realize how big of an idiot this guy really turns out to be.

[AliTheBrit19]

5 Hours may seem short for just a campaign, but it will probably talk you a little longer anyway unless your just TRYING to finish it as fast as you can

But then it has a lot of co-op stuff.

It's very sad to see a games quality been based on its length, so would they be happy if Ubisoft had padded it with a few hours of needless stuff? rather than keep a solid rounded campaign? what a joke.

[Raz]

Sorry Ubisoft, but a 5 hour campaign doesn't cut it these days. This is the gaming equivalent of making a 20 minute feature film. Don't get lazy - sit back down and finish what you started.

[AKS]

I usually play my games on a "hard" or "very hard" difficulty setting, so this quantitative hour mark generally doesn't have much of an impact on me. In addition, ICO, Gunstar Heroes, Gears of War, and a lot of other fantastic games were actually quite short in duration, but I'd rate many of them among my favorites. So I guess it's somewhat of a negative if there's less content, but if the quality is there I'll probably play through it more than once. I also have the option of waiting until it is discounted considering this has never been close to being the top game on my list and I have plenty of other games to play right now. I'll probably wait for a Steam special before I buy it assuming the quality is high enough to merit a purchase.

[2Spock]

My god all the hypocrites on this site is just awful....First you go to say you wont buy a game with such a short single player but then you turn around and talk about the heavy hitter's that you bought of GOW3 and Heavy Rain which are both under 10 hour games and have no multiplayer or co-op what so ever. Which GOW3 has some decent replay value but Heavy Rain does not, besides redoing a few chapters to keep the characters from the end or getting them to the end. Even though i am going to rent SC it would probably be a better deal spending 60 bucks on this than Heavy Rain that's for sure.

[xTruthx]

2Spock i don't think those games are below 10 hours

GOW3 took me 16:41 and I didn't even get all the trophies(only 2 left in the story mode).

HR 12:25 the first playthrew

If you rush everything and dont really enjoy the game then yah, you'll finish it before the 10 hours and I believe HR has a lot of more replay value than sc, because everything changes when you choose another path, sc doesn't.

[Chubear]

Splinter Cell is given excuses as to why it's a 9.5 game with a 5hr SP like "oh, the MP adds time" but SC has always been primarily a SP game and a 4th gen game at that.

Heaven Sword is a 1st gen game that drips with high end quality that most 4th gen games don't have 1/5th of. It was a game that I personally completed in roughly 8hrs on my first go and 7hrs in hell mode.

It was just as long or definitely longer than many supposed AAA SP campaign titles that have come out in years 3&4 this gen but it was parroted over and over again how "short" it was yet games with less SP campaigns are not even given a mention and given easy 9.5s

If you have not experienced Heavenly Sword go now and when you're done, imagine what a Heavenly Sword 2 could have been had reviews for a 1st gen game been held to the same standards as many "AAA" games are held to - as 3rd & 4th gen games - especially when you look at the progression games like Uncharted, Resistance etc have had with their sequels.

[Anon1974]

The single player campaign is what's important to me. I rarely touch multiplayer on these games. You think I bought Uncharted 2 for the multiplayer?

For me a game has to delivery a solid, single player experience FIRST before I'll even look at it. There are obviously a couple of exceptions. I bought Warhawk and Modern Warfare specifically for the multiplayer aspect but I'm all about the single player campaign first and foremost. There's no way I'm paying $12 bucks an hour to play through this game. At least entertain me for a day, not an afternoon.

[morganfell]

First time through, 15-19 hours and that still puts me ahead of the fastest people at OPM...that had Konami at their beck and call. There are 8 hours of cutscenes.

And if you are playing MGS4 on normal then you suck.

[Therealspy03]

i played through the game and beat it late last night. i played it on realistic so that probably added an hour or two. but it took WAY longer than 5 hours. i'd say about 12. whomever started this rumor about it being 5 hours is full of sh!t.

oh, and that doesn't even count the 4 full levels of co-op. on realistic, first time through, took me and a friend close to 3 hours to beat the first 2 levels.

[LordMarius]

lol, best title I have ever seen

[lelo2play]

Is that so? I wounder why we did not see articles with a title like...

"Santa Monica, 6-7 hours for God of War 3, without multilayer nor Co-op? Keep That Sh*t!"

[Rainstorm81]

since IGN unleashed this shytstorm lets go with IGN's opinion on GOW3.....

"It won't take much more than about 10 hours one time through" - Chris Roper IGN on GOW3

where are all you guys getting this 6 hour play time for gow3?

I guess they rushed through Splinter cell and took thier time with GOW huh?

Hypocrisy at its finest.....A 5 hour SP campaign isnt anything to praise no matter what console.

I enjoy both PS3 and 360....If Uncharted 3 or Mass Effect 3 was released and its SP was 5 hours id rent it at best, Have some standards for god's sake.

[authentic24]

Gow III is 8-11 hours dpending on how good you are. Thats the avg length of single player action adventure games. Splinter cell has always been longer than 5 hours and offered more in the multiplayer department. There is no excuse for a Splinter cell game to only be 5 hours on the single player campaign. The only thing I can think of is that the devs ran out of ideas. Which suggest that maybe they need not make any more Splinter Cell games. I mean they even stripped down the multiplayer to 1v1. I mean really 1v1 this isn't a sports game, o I forgot the majority of sports games offer TEAM PLAY ( 2v2, 3v3, 4v4,etc) so to have 1v1 is terrible in 2010. It seems for every step forward that they make with Splinter Cell they take 5 steps backwards. At least this gen anyway. Splinter Cell is definitely not a game that got where it is because of multiplayer so to only have a 5 hour single player campaign is ridiculous.

But lucky for me I have gamefly and I'll rent it and see how long or short it really is.

Oh by the way again IDK where you got 6-7 hours from for GOW that's really not true, even after knowing where everything is and knowing all the patterns of enemies, your looking at about 8 hours and 30 minutes. Anybody who beats it in 6-7 hours used The combat arena glitch, which still requires you to beat the game then the challenge arena to unlock.

But you know I guess I'm a fanboy just because I played GOW III, even though I have both systems.

But here is some insight on avg hours for games,

Action Adventure = 8 - 11 hours
Shooters = 7-8 ( COD:MW2 and Battlefield BC2 Are probably the shortest shooters in this genre.)
RPG's = 30 - 50 hours ( more of a range than a actual avg)
MMO's = unlimited hours( last as long as devs support the game)

I generalized the genres to keep it simple.

[ape007]

prove that sony fanboys are completely illogical

wtf the game have co-op, multiplayer and single player that have loads of replay value

deaf much or butt-hurt much ???

[execution17]

2nd was 6 hours, now i'm finally playing titan, just finished hermes...
and idk why people said hades is hard on titan i breezed right through him Poseidon was the one that almost made me huck my controller at the tv lol

[Icyhot]

^^^^ Just wait till you reach the Flaming Cerebus in Hell with the 3 Satyrs and then say it's a breeze. It took me more than 30 tries (note without any help by googling or youtubing). That bloody dog can swipe your health by a quarter in 1 slash and the Satyrs are pain in the @ss... The fight lasted me more than 7 minutes.. Lol thats probably the only time I have concentrated so much in a game...

ON TOPIC.. People saying it took them 6 hours to complete GOW3 is a complete lie. It took me 9 1/2 hours on Normal (And I knew a lot of things by seeing many videos... Also a few weak points for the bosses).. 5 Hours is just criminally short. I don't play co-op and don't like too much online, so for me it's an absolute no buy. I'd better save up for Red Dead Redemption which will at least guarantee > 20 hours of gameplay.

Sigh, I only like to buy single player games as I ain't much of a multiplayer guy and such games, dwindle my faith in the industry... Please companies should not sacrifice on SP for MP!!!! I even hated this fact about BFBC2. All SP are so criminally short now-a-days. 10 hours is a must for any game!!!!

[Software_Lover]

Im sure I'll have more fun in this game than in the 4.5-5 hour Modern Warfare 2 campaign. But you know, some people just get a pass.

Plus I work, I run a studio on my off days, I have 2 boys. I hate ridiculously long games that I will never finish. No where near finished with Final Fantasy 13. Still have to get back to MGS4. Im surprised I finished Mass Effect 2.

Resistance 1 just ran on and on and on till I just got tired of it at a point. I finished it but I put it down for months. A good game, whose length is too long, can also ruin the experience.

[Abriael]

So since you have a job (like most of the people in the world, mind you, you make it sound so special), you like to get less than your money's worth?

Well, more power to you I guess, there are people that use bills to light their cigars after all.

For me this is a pass. 6 hours of sub-hd mediocrity when I can have better games that will last me much longer for the same price? no thanks.

[Software_Lover]

is an opinion. A games' length does not determine how good it is. People need to get that part right. Warhawk has no campaign length, but people still praise it. It has Multiplayer. This games has plenty of Multiplayer features. isn't that what you guys beg for now a days? It also has a single player campaign. Heavenly Sword was just a little bit longer than this game, but with no multiplayer, but people still praise it. See where Im getting at?

Its all in the perception of the person playing the game. And Im very well aware that other people on this planet have a job. You act like you're mad Im gonna buy the game.

Dont waste your money. More power to you sir/madam. Go buy a chess game. Those can last forever. Is that getting your money's worth?

[Abriael]

Sorry, but content does determine how good a game is. if a game lacks content, no matter how great it is, it doesn't provide enough bang for the buck.

If you lack playing as much as a full cake for half a cake, then good for you.
But honestly? The market is packed full of whole cakes to even think about wasting money on the cakes sliced in half because the developer has decided to be lazy.

Lazy developers shouldn't be rewarded with sales, or they'll get the impression that being lazy is good. It's that simple.

[AKNAA]

That makes no sense?! you want to pay for short game because you have a job and 2 boys?! WTF?
I have 2 kids as well, which means bigger holes in my pocket appear consistently. so even though I only have an hour or two to play games, I'd still prefer longer games 10hrs.+. why? simple. I at least get my moneys worth and saves me a lot of money in which is spent on my family, instead of wasting more of it on another game cause I finished the last one in 5hrs... the longer, the better.

uncharted 2 look me a whole week to finish cause I have very little time to play, but that didn't prevent it from ruining the fun experience I had with it.
deadspace took me almost a month to complete, but I loved it still, so basically, I don't understand your logic?!

[Software_Lover]

since this is my last reply this might be kind of long.

My logic is simple if you stop putting words in my mouth.

I never said that I wanted to pay for short games. Show me where and I will apologize right now. What I said was that people instantly look at the length of a game to determine its value. AND THATS OKAY if that's all you're looking for in a game. If a long game = value to you then thats fine. But to me its more than how long a game is. I also stated that games can be too long and I also gave an example. I also gave an example of a game with no single player, that was good. And a game with no multiplayer, that was short, but was good and you guys just ignored those.

I gave an example of my life. Not yours. My work has nothing to do with your work. My kids have nothing to do with your kids. What you can do in your free time has nothing to do with me and my free time. Im glad it took a week to finish Uncharted. I actually finished it quicker. But when it comes to shooters they can get too long, and I gave an example of that also.

Can you guys honestly say that if God of War 3 was 35 hours long it wouldn't get repetitive and boring? It would and any honest person would say that. A game dev has to capture it audience and leave them wanting more or atleast satisfied. And an extra long dragged out game doesn't do that ********IMHO************** You may think differently.

RPG's are the exception of course and it was a mistake on my part to list final Fantasy 13 in my original post. We all have different tastes in games but this game length argument was never really around before this gen. All the games that I play aren't short. Hell, my favorite game right now, and has been for a long time, is Sins of A solar empire. I've been playing one play through here and there for about a year now. That games length is eternal with the right scenarios.

But I forgot this is N4g and anything against the mob is heresy. And to Abriael.....................A higher resolution doesn't automatically make a game great either. A smooth turd is still a turd man. But thats a totally different argument.

[Rainstorm81]

well in the defense of games like warhawk and socom....they werent 60$ you could get both for 60 when they were new.

For all the people accepting this bs, i guess 3 hour movie length games will be fine too as long as we get an online MP or co-op......................... .......Ridiculous...

[pixelsword]

Heavenly Sword, although short, would've been ruined for me if it was too long.

[Montrealien]

And yet, the same people that dissagree with Software Lover, will defend GoW3...

oh N4G, how you fail so....

I saw this coming from a mile away.

and bubble up software lover ffs.

[Obama]

Shallow gameplay...not good! Mgs4 has a killer single player campaign, and it averages 15 to 20 hours (first play through). If it takes 5 hours to complete SCC in first play through, it means that game can actually be completed in an hour and a half.

[FanOfGaming]

LMAOOO You deserve a bubble!

[Michael-Jackson]

The gameplay has been dumbed down because xbots can't tolerate long learning curve. They want more action and less gameplay...Also SCC has a wannabe 3rd person shooter part in the single player campaign, lol.

[BannedForNineYears]

Wow, Obama really isn't that bad of a guy. :D

[BattleAxe]

Just another great hit for the 360! Whats HALO Reach going to be ......3 hours maybe. MS sure knows how to make money.

[Wrathman]

i said this would happen when GOW3 was 6 hours long.now devs think its ok to produce a game that is 5 hours long as long as it looks good.

thanks sony.i blame you!

oh well.at least its 5hours of gameplay that cant be played on the gaystation.plus the co-op.

[Sir_Ken_Kutaragi_]

...you can get to the end of the game before you get...RRoD again!!! ;-D

[HolyOrangeCows]

-5 hour campaign.
-multiplayer lacks spies vs mercs.
-basic stealth elements from previous games like body moving not in game.
-Ugly sub-HD graphics

Foundational issues + lack of content = No thank you.

[avengers1978]

God of War 3 was at least 8 hrs if you didn't play it on the easy or medium difficulty, turn up the difficulty people. On the hardest level GOW3 took me 13 hrs. SCC is probably longer than 5 hrs if you turn up the difficulty, and actually try to accomplish everything in it, but then againg DVD9 can only hold so much info so it's not unlikely that MS games will be shorter and shorter, since there trying to make there games look better. SCC looked pretty glitchy to me and every demo I've seen looks like crap... I'll just play double agent again.

[happy_gilmore]

ubisoft just spends that money on bribing review site and magazines

prince of persia was a 6 hour gamewith no replay value and MP and IGN gave it a 9.3.

[Chubear]

Uhm, interesting.

[chisox100]

As a PS3 and long time splinter cell fan i'm dissapointed but i still have my MGS <3

[LordMarius]

lol, no wonder its on the crapbox only, gimping ftw

[Mo0eY]

The powers of DVD9. I cannot wait to download the pirated version on my pirated copy of Windows XP.

[Michael-Jackson]

on the Sony Vaio?

[Mo0eY]

Close - the Apple Macbook Pro.

[xoxideu]

Actually, it's 4 hours and 30 minutes. The other 30 minutes are the credit rolls

Must have ran out of disc space

[hybridtheory12]

LOL.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

Don't skip, guys.

Heavenly Sword was 5-10 hours, depending on difficulty...and it was completely worth it!

The same goes for the Modern Warfare 2 campaign. It was incredibly awesome!!!

EDIT: There are four possible reasons you disagreed.

1. You don't like me.
2. You don't like Heavenly Sword because it's a PS3 exclusive.
3. You don't like Modern Warfare 2 because you like hating on anything popular...despite how amazing it is.
4. You don't like Splinter Cell: Conviction because it's a 360 exclusive.

EDIT 2: Dude...Modern Warfare 2 had a great plot, believable acting, perfected mechanics, and more variation in gameplay than almost any shooter out there. Don't tell me it wasn't a great campaign. Next you're going to say Battlefield: Bad Company 2 had a better campaign. Lol.

[Abriael]

LOL @ Modern Crapfare single player "incredibly awesome!!!". That was such a disjointed letdown that it isn't even funny as a joke.

[Sam Fisher]

i call mw2 = Call of doodoo Modern warfaggots 2. ARE YOU A WARFAG?

[ReservoirDog316]

I usually agree with you on most things but mw2 had a disappointing singleplayer. That's a fact.

CoD4 has the best war story I've ever played. More or less believable, numerous emotional moments, adrenaline throughout and a gut wrenching story. And mw2 had none of that.

It was over the top, not very believable (make a soldier go undercover huh?), no emotional moments besides the "No Russian" mission and maybe the "Whiskey Hotel" being shown that first time and the end was terrible. Plus they ruined the sadness of it all by *Spoilers* making Soap and Cpt. Price survive CoD4's ending. And Cpt. Price's terrible terrible terribly laughable speech in the end. CoD4's Cpt. Price is one of the coolest characters this gen. Not mw2's though.

Everyone has an opinion but I disagree with yours on mw2. I didn't press disagree though.

[xoxideu]

More Discs.. Less gameplay.. for u bots

[Mo0eY]

This game will be unbelievably good. Five hours? Five hours for sixty dollars sounds like a bargain to me! Don't let the short campaign, the stealth to action switcharoo, or the unbelievable no-picking-up of the dead bodies fool you. Oh, and don't forget the level that didn't fit the game according to IGN, but they gave it a 9.3 anyway. Those are just minor issues with the Game of Spring 2010. :]

[The Time Reaper]

But are those 5 hours great? That is the real question.

[Omega Zues]

Flash back a few weeks ago when people were dissing God of War 3 for being 8-10 hours. Hell God of War 3 is almost twice as long as this.

Now instead of being a typical hater and trying to down play a game. I shall chose not to. Yes there was a rally of people hating on God of War 3, true it was extremely ignorant of them to do so but I will turn the other cheek and just except how things are. If Splinter Cell short then its short.

Buy or Pass its simple as that.

or...

you could always rent, theres that option to >.>

[The Wood]

im with you +1

[lelo2play]

I played through God of War 3 in 7 hours... and not even in a rush. God of War 3 is not that much longer then Splinter Cell's 5-6 hours, but Splinter Cell does have multiplayer and co-op.

But everybody has to admit... GOW3 is a great game with great graphics, but unfortunately it's only a 7 hour single player game that costs 60-70€ where i live.

[Doletskaya]

thats about one hour of sp per year.Sounds like the devs at Ubisoft are really talented.

[Fanb0y]

The version of Conviction we have now had only been worked on for about 2 years.

They completely scrapped the hobo-sam Splinter Cell builds and its content.

[catch]

At least the hobo looked like he had some character. Here I thought I would actually be putting my 360 to work for once this year but I will pass until it hits the bargain bin.

[Sam Fisher]

MGS4 with out the movie clips(not cut-scenes, they are too long to be called that) the game only had roughly 2.5-5 hrs of game. not trying to get a war started but don't forget that.

proof: http://www.gamefaqs.com/con...
scroll all the way to the bottom to see peoples fastest time to beat game

edit: hey im not a troll, in fact i hate conviction, that im not going to buy it and for your info i happened to beat MGS4 8 times. so dont say ima troll. i fight for the truth. and if you want to know, yes it does hurt me that SSC is ruined IMO. ima sam fisher fan but i will never forgive ubisoft to what they did to my beloved franchise

[Obama]

Still doesn't change the fact that mgs4 takes an average 15-20 hours in first play through. Well one can probably finish SCC in less than an hour if he speed run it.

[Abriael]

Too bad that to be that fast you have to know the game perfectly, skip most content (and most playable content, not the cutscenes), and lo and behold, use cheatish equipment that you acquire only beating the game multiple times.

Otherwise, even without the clips, MGS4 is longer than most games nowadays.

I guess this kinda debunks your troll attempt.

Fail troll is fail, but after all, what could one expect from someone with that nickname and avatar.

[Doletskaya]

those are the fastest times(excluding cut-scenes) to finish MGS4,while 5 hours of campaign for Splinter Cell: Conviction comes directly from a reviewer's month,which means those who finish MGS4 in 4 hours can probably finish Splinter Cell in 2 hours.

[ryano23277]

I'm a huge MGS fan. MGS4 is one of my favourites of all time (best ending to a video game) and the movie/cut scenes were breath taking to say the least. Once the game is completed and the cut scenes are skipped MGS4 becomes a much shorter game by a long way, but a better one at the same time.

Now you can just play the GAME, without the distractions. I can't say that I have completed MGS4 anywhere near 2.5 hrs, but it is reasonably short (never complained once) as that made me play through 5x over and still is there for a game whenever I want some MGS.

Batman I felt fell into the same category, once the cut scenes are removed and the path is known, Bats is a short game. That is better when not interrupted and played over & over.

SCC if the gameplay is the stealth gameplay that I've always loved, then SCC will be played over a few times (if the 5 or so hours are very good - I expect they will be)

[kaveti6616]

You are a troll, yourself.

You called Splinter Cell a wannabe MGS game.

The Splinter Cell series IS a high profile series and many of the games in that series are renowned.

MGS is also a great series with different elements. As you have seen, Splinter Cell never ever tries to be like MGS. It's a completely different type of game with stealth as just a jumping off point.

[Neo Nugget]

This my friends, is why I am renting this from gamefly.

[Captain Tuttle]

Typical Ironstar

[Slimshadyn]

I don't understand when people criticize a game for being short. If reviews say a game is short or your not sure of getting a game, rent it. Play it a day or two and if you don't like take it back and say it didn't work and pick out a different game :P

[ikral]

I still have to finish Chaos Theory and Double Agent on my PS2. And somehow I managed to play MGS3 3 times trough, MGS2 4 times, MGS1 5 times, and am playing MGS4 3rd time right now. Fisher can wait, so can Conviction. In narrow hallway, in dark, above my head...

[Sikbeni10]

I completed GOW 3 in 6H 21M, sure it was on easy but that game is only SP...

I'm playing SC:C now and the Co-op + SP is far more than 5 hours.

Then there is MP.

Seems people want to hate on the game, so be it but I know what I'm playing and it's been more than 5 hours.

[Fanb0y]

Is the actual game closer to 8 hours SP, 2 hours Prologue?

[Michael-Jackson]

1 Hour = 1 Year x 5, lol.

"it's on the 360" No wonder it's gimped.

[jessehaysfl]

is it a storage issue? Seems like most companies are going this route.

[CountDracula]

I bet the Co-op is fun tho

[theunleashed64]

lol hahahahahahahahahaha they probaly couldn't fit on three disc's

[jesuisankit]

I think the game have very good value.. my friend who is reviewing the game said the single player lasted around 8 to 9 hours .. also the Co op is super fun.. he says he keeps getting back to the game as its so much fun.. anyways ppl who just want to try it .. do it and decide for yourself.. And never never go by the games Demo.. like Bayonetta's demo, SC:C demo doesnt do justice to the full game.

[Lionhead]

I actually beat it in 3 hours and 42 minutes on Realistic first playthrough.

The coop does add to it as it is a seperate campaign entirely and the multiplayer is ehhhh.

It's overall.........decent. Disappointing if you ask me, but still a good "enough" game.

[Obama]

3 hours 42 min first play through. Wow, the game can be speed run in half an hour may be???

[Lionhead]

Yeah, it has some nice cinematic moments and the ending sets up another one. I'm fairly certain it'll come to PS3.

Will get some multiplayer matches in and return it before my 7 days are up lol

Will save that money for either Alan Wake or Red Dead Redemption.

[Michael-Jackson]

4 real? ohh god. So it's 5 hours for a noob gamer, LMAO.

[PopEmUp]

so you saying this is worth an overnight rental? lol

[NMC2007]

I am beginning to think these people who write these so called "articles" don't even play the games they write about.

Many games can be beaten in less than 5 hours if you choose to do so and are good enough to do so or maybe they play on easy setting, that's probably it, people play these games on easy and claim they are so short because they blew through the AI.

There are so many expletives swirling in my head, good thing this site(like many others)are against it.

[kraze07]

People said Heavenly Sword was short, but it took me more than 8 hours to beat it. Not everyone plays a game the same way on the same difficulty, but I will say that if a casual gamer can beat a game on normal in less than 6-8 hours then the price should be lowered by *at least* $10.

[OneSneakyMofo]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

[SDF Repellent]

MAG is OK for $60 for being only a Multiplayer game and SCC is being blaster for giving gamers multiple game modes?

SCC has the single player campaign, 3 co op mode that will last anothe 12-15 hours.

Also, the single palyer campaign is about 8-12 hours according the Gamespot UK final preview of the game. The IGN review guy must have been skipping all the cinematic and rushed through the whole game on a pair of roller blades.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbo...

"The main campaign will apparently last up to 12 hours and can be replayed in a variety of different ways. Each time we replayed a level, there were different routes to be explored and new strategies to execute. The inclusion of the P.E.C (Persistent Elite Creation) system also encourages you to try out all sorts of play styles, such as performing silent headshots or repeatedly pulling mercenaries out of open windows. "

Picking this game up at the Midnight launch tomorrow. Will be a great game IMO.

[Def Warrant]

Oh STFU you paranoid troll. What does MAG or anything else non-splinter cell have to do with this article?

What? you upset cause someone revealed that your beloved game is only 5 hours (which is totally subjective by the way)?

Cry more loser. I'm sick of you people taking any little thing as an attack on this pathetic console war.

[i3eyond the Circle]

Already got the game.

It's not 5hours.

Just seeing these fanboys on the site get so happy because they have something to talk about after getting swarmed with positive xbox news the past few days is HILARIOUS.

Well to not spoil anything let me run down how the game works.

Everything is immersive the only load screen you have is a pretty short one after death.

There is a stealth approach almost everywhere and eavesdropping at certain parts helps unfold objectives and story.

The only way I see anyone beating this game in 5hours is if they litreally ran past all conversations and didn't crouch once.

This game isn't meant to be played like Gears of War and the A.I aren't that stupid...maybe the lacky henchmen, but when they sick the agency on you playing on realistic will make sweat drip from your head. Very suspenseful.

Co Op will last you 15+ hours if your aiming to beat out your friends in equipment, and well over 25+ if you're aiming to max this game in gamerscore.

The single player hits the climax at around 5hours.

I feel sorry for anyone who lets the n4g dominant species who haven't played the game ruin your anticipation because some reviewer at IGN played SC:C like gears of war on its easiest difficulty.

SC:C in its package is a game over 30 hours and I can tell by just looking at the achievements and upgrades and content you can unlock.

IGN guy says the game is 5 hours, IT'S NOT WORTH THE MONEY

Guy beats God of War 3 in 5 in a half with proof and picture of save it's BLASPHEMY!

You're really dumb....i mean you must be retarded if you believe this game is 5 hours....

My copy isn't illegal btw....*retailerX* has had there shipment for sometime and I'm friends with the managers.

Oh and the regional manager says Natal will be bundled with a new xbox design. Anticipate on that bomb fanboys.

[authentic24]

Splinter Cell is being blasted for changing it's own formula. Go back and play "Pandora Tomorrow" and "Chaos Theory", then play "Double Agent". Then Notice how they stripped Splinter Cell down once they got to "Double Agent", and they seem to have done the same to Conviction. I enjoyed Splinter cell last gen, Single and Multiplayer modes. They forgot what made Splinter Cell good and they are paying to much attention to other games to draw inspiration from instead of sticking with their own formula. But IDK anything just check the review scores from last gen to this gen for splinter cell titles and you will see why this one is getting blasted.

[SDF Repellent]

Hypocrite PS3 fanboy at its best.

He said "Oh STFU you paranoid troll. What does MAG or anything else non-splinter cell have to do with this article?"

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

Posted by Deathbed Warrant: "lol talk about butt hurt fanboy. You're so insecure that you had to respond to a guy/girl who stated his (somehow warranted) opinion about your precious little average game that still doesn't stack up to MGS4 (a 2008 game) lol. You are pathetic if you feel the need to bash the ps3 in order to make you feel better. Get ready the the media onslaught on this average multiplat lol. "

I don't need to say more. A PS3 troll and a known Splinter Cell hater posting on a X360 article. How pathetic.

And this quote from Deathbed Warrant takes the cake "Cry more loser. I'm sick of you people taking any little thing as an attack on this pathetic console war. "

How ironic that a troll like Deathbed Warrant can even come up with this sorry sentence is beyond believe. Look in the mirror and you will find the answer. Have a nice day.

[bjornbear]

this game is talking about SC:C...not MAG

stupid troll kid LOL

[the-warriors]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

loooooooooooool

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

looooooooooooool

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

5hrs+720p+Glitch+Crap Graphics+nothing new = Fail

[ClownBelt]

Why the hell is a hobo in the picture?

[T9X69]

@Obama - Your a moron, you cant complete SCC in an hour if you rush through it. IGN rushed through the game on normal to get there review on time, I actually have the game and beat it on realistic (If you don't believe me check my GT - T9X 69) and it took me 8-9 hours to complete the game. GOW3 is a straight single player game and once you beat it there's nothing else to do but play though it again, where SCC has Single Player, a co-op campaign thats about 4-5 hours long as well as 4 other co-op modes that last an hour or so per map if you play on realistic. I've put over 20 hours into this game already and my money is well spent and anyone with a brain in there head that actually buys the game will know their money was well spent as well.

[jalen247]

Shame...Ubi has really dropped the ball with this game. Game took so long to develop and 5 hour single player is all they can muster.

Its crazy how journalist gives games with multiplayer a pass for short single player.

MW 2's short single player is shameful and so is this.

[gravv]

SC Conviction:

1 and a half hours + 576p like most of 360 exclusives + no graphics/2 bit graphic if u compares it with gow 3 + nothing new, as old as platipus when still a duck b4 turning into mammal = uber ultimate mega phailz

[the-warriors]

IGN > SCC 8.5 for graphics same Heavy Buttons lolololololol
go enjoy watching Heavy Buttons film lololl

[BattleAxe]

^^^^^

Just change your name to "the Retard" and we'll be good.

[IHateYouFanboys]

remember, the multiplayer component in Conviction isnt JUST typical multiplayer - there is a full blown 3-4 hour multiplayer campaign.

so add that 3-4 hours to the 5 hour single player campaign and what do you get? a game with more hours in its campaign than the current PS3 fanboys 'best game ever' game, God of War 3, which i finished first time on normal difficulty - finding all the treasures and taking my time to look around as well - in 8 hours 20 minutes.

i dont care how long a game is if its good. God of War 3 could be 2 hours long and id still recommend it to anyone that asks. Bioshock couldve been 4 hours long and i would still rave about how good it is. i prefer quality, not quantity.

Splinter Cell Conviction looks insanely good and i cant wait to play it. this is just another one of those 'sucks to not own both consoles' games for all you PS3 fanboys.

[spooky205]

but the way i see it 5 hours for a SP campaign is not a valid excuse just because there is a multiplayer component. At least GOW3 had unlockables, items, cheats, a challenge mode, various difficulty settings, and a variety of different weapons that could be exchanged on the fly to string custom combos. These components can add length to the game. SC on the other hand has a 1v1 multiplayer system which is rederend useless if 1.) you live in australia and have bandwidth limits (making xbox live a completely useless feature.) 2.) you dont like multiplayer games and opt for SP 3.) you dont have xbox live and have to shell out another 50 bucks (which could be spent on buying a longer better game).

this is a unexcusable common practice happening with games this gen that really needs to stop. Think long and hard about whats going on. What if miyamoto makes the next zelda game 5 hours long and tacks on a multiplayer feature and sells it to you for 50+ dollars? If bioshock 2 was only 5 hours long with multiplayer tacked on, would you have bought it despite the first Bioshock was all about the SP experience?

[gravv]

how could u say the graphic is a lot better than heavy rain when they give it the same score? another thing IGN its extremely bias against PS3..

*sigh* u stupid arabs were never cease to amazed me

[the-warriors]

go try the game after say is bad graphix or not

watch this morron
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
the gameplay keep ur PS3 in the Sh1t

[CernaML]

LOL Nice way to completely fail, the-warriors aka Zero 007.

"SSC better graphics than Heavy Buttons hurr hurr hurr lololol"

"ign score 8.5 for graphics same as Heavy Buttons derp derp!"

LOL!!!

Does an Xbox 360 exclusive (for now) that doesn't meet expectations really get you this butthurt and idiotic? :)

[PopEmUp]

"the-warriors aka Zero 007" one dumb@ss with two accounts hahaaaaha :)

[Tose]

GOW3 is 8 hours long on average, unless you die a million times or it takes you like 4 hours to get by a certain puzzly garden, and it's not gonna take you any longer than that. Quit being so butthurt and admit the truth already

[washingmachine]

holy krap,5 hours hahaha,they should be selling it less than half price

[-MD-]

Same length as Modern Warfare 2. It's got co-op modes and multiplayer so a short campaign isn't the end of the world.

[The Time Reaper]

It won't hinder my purchase right now, but the tacking on of MP doesn't really make it okay to me, in ANY title. Why are you alright with it?

[-MD-]

Who says it's tacked on? I didn't bother reading the article just from the title. I'm only renting the game through Gamefly but it sounds like it has enough content to warrant a purchase.

[i3eyond the Circle]

The game isn't 5hours tho.

If you're a real fan and wanted this game for the story,

Eavesdropping and great stealth utilization warrants a game well over 8hours.

The IGN reviewer sounded like he couldn't even give a spoiler free summary of the story.

He definitely had to rush on the easiest difficulty to beat it in 5hours.

Co Op multiplayer story isn't 3-4hours. You'll find yourself replaying missions and completing certain objectives that you couldn't with your previous gear set and the peaces just look awesome.

Upgraded Archer and Kestrel look awesome and I only have a few things unlocked.

[ClownBelt]

With speed run this game can be finished in 1 and a half hour. What a fricking waste of money.

Also, the game is extremely easy. No challenge at all.

@below

Truth hurts huh? Lmao

[i3eyond the Circle]

^^^ That's just dumb.

This games cinematics unfold real time on the fly during gameplay.

So unless you've found the god hack of skipping gameplay you're full of pure concentrated BS.

1 and a half hours....troll elsewhere.

[jkhan]

The problem is that these so called game journalist play the game on easy difficulty and rush through the game to write a review and then they b*tch about how short is it.

[despair]

as much as i dislike ign and detest Hillary Goldstein he did say that realistic was the way to play the game and he beat it 3 times(his words paraphrased) so I'm guessing he played realistic and since he beat it more than once i doubt he played the same difficulty over again....just saying...

[Biggest]

Don't they have DLC prepared to add to the co-op portion of the game? I saw someone mention player versus player as the multiplayer content aside from co-op. There are more players per game than that, right? I don't see 1 vs. 1 being very fun for long. But don't put any weight to the Gamespot article just yet. They say apparently 12 hours. They haven't posted a review yet. The 12 hours is what they were told.

[The Iron Sheik]

This is too funny. Bots talked non stop about GOW3 being 8 hours. Yet they are perfectly fine with a 5 hour single player. I guess we had you all wrong. When you critcized GOW3 for being 8 hours you meant that GOW was too long.

And I know it has multiplayer, however it is not included in the price of the game. You are only getting 5 hours for 60 bucks.

[ReservoirDog316]

Sorry, ignore this.

[Dawn_Of_Ashes]

Woah... And they try to compete with Metal Gear solid with a 5hours game?

Anyway everybody should know by now that ubisoft montreal are a bunch of f'n coward. Just look at most of the console game they did recently, they all failed! Assassin Creed 1, FarCry2, Avatar.

[IHateYouFanboys]

theyre competing with a 3 hour game + 11 hours of cutscenes with a 5 hour single player campaign and a 5 hour multiplayer campaign all wrapped up in one.

[anonymouse111335]

I miss games taking tons of time to complete, now they pool money into graphics and marketing rather than making it more fun, sadly.

[readiandnot]

Hmmm. I've played through two of the Splinter Cell games, I don't remember how long it took me to finish them though.

It does seem short.

[PS3 Supremacy]

LOL how sad is this. This pos was suppose to challenge MGS4 as the stealth king?

"Bu bu bu bu MSG is moviez!" And even with the long cutscenes, the total gameplay of MGS4 was much more the than 5 hours this pos known as SCC is offering LOL.

[despair]

the problem for me is that the coop is just a bunch of tasks and challenges that have nothing to do with the story, which has always been paramount in previous splinter cell games. Just because the extra gameplay is there doesn't mean that after I bring the story to conclusion i would just like to play some random challenges as some random agents.

5 hours of story is just too short and no coop add-on like kill x number of people or defend this target will change that. For the length of time the game has been in development i wonder why its so limited. 60$ is too much for so little.

[i3eyond the Circle]

Huh????

Have you played the Co Op story mode?

You're getting the multiplayer game modes confused with the Prologue.

It's not 5 hours....you guys REALLY let an IGN reviewer fuel proofless fanboyism....hehe after all the "don't let a reviewer make your decision" bs that pops up after every negative review not in those morons favor they just went and rolled with this one as if it was word from a higher power....word from god or something.

The game isn't 5 hours unless you swapped Sam Fischer out with Marcus Fenix.

Edit: I have the right to defend. I have the game and it angers me when f*cking ps3 fanboys get on this site and utter BS they have no knowledge of other than a split second of speech statement from an IGN reviewer.

You guys are pathetic and are killing games. I read you like books the reason this 5 hour bs is being ran with is because you guys have nothing else to talk about and couldn't sleep without desperately finding something to bash.

Move?

When is the next ps3 exclusive btw? One worth mentioning please probably some time in the summer and I bet that release date isn't solid.

If this 5 hour stuff wasn't blown out of proportion....SC:C threads would be filled with "I'm getting the PC version its superior" comments all over the place.

Take note....read this thread....how many times does PC pop up now?

I read you like books and its so vivid its funny...really. I'm off to sleep tho.

Leave a comment I need something laugh at when I'm eating breakfast.

[despair]

i3eyond the Circle

actually they said(not ign, reviews in the ubisoft forums) if you run through with mark and execute a lot and pretty much play like an action game(which you can mostly) then its 5-6 hours. Using stealth can be 7-12 hours depending how you play but thats not how many will play as its longer and more tedious with no reward or cons for doing either.

Didn't know about the co-op story mode, that would be great, but the MP will not interest me as its not story related. Seriously you need to calm down a bit. Still have to play the full game but if the length is anything like COD:MW2 or BFBC2 then it will be a disappointment(finished both in a weekend).

[ClownBelt]

He's in full blast defending the game's length. Give it a rest. It's short and not worth $60 dollars. Lmao

[Rio-Hustla-Inc]

Don't blame Ubisoft blame DVD-9. Same reason why Modern Warfare 2 is 5 hours long.

[Arnon]

This game isn't on the PS3, therefore, it's a bad game. PS3 is the only console that has good games ever, forever.

PS3
PS3
PS3

MGS4 > SC:C.

/sarcasm over.

[bjornbear]

i'm sure you weren't on N4G when they claimed GOWIII was 5-8 hours long and al the 360 boys were complaining about it being too short

now...look at the double standards =) so funny

honestly, i think both cases are BS

if its a good game and lasts over 8 hours SP, its good. end of argument.

[Enjoi915111]

gow 3 was to short.......especially with no co-op or multilplayer

gow 3 was a epic hack and slash.....a good 7 hours of fun but after that......i didnt want to play it again......hack slash goty....but not goty....sorry begay bear

[i3eyond the Circle]

Last bub I'll just end with this.

THE GAME ISN'T 5 HOURS.

Jesus laughs at you if you actually believe it.

Now if the hypocrisy present proves right....all you whining *female dogs* who are upset about the over exaggerated lie of the game being 5hours because you were anticipating the story then I can guarantee you won't beat it in 5hours because you actually want to play the game like it is supposed to.

You will stalk
You will prey
You will strategize
You will involve yourself in PEC
You will listen and soak in dialogue from the very enemies you will kill right after.

If you play on Realistic which isn't hard if you're a splinter cell player and understand the roots.

You die faster and enemies have a higher sense of awareness.

The demo is an old build the final version is well polished the screen tearing present in the demo is gone. EPIC!!

If you have a 120hz-240hz television it renders perfectly not like how some games look horrid running with it on. This game actually makes it just like a movie running in 120hz the game looks like it has a whole extra 30fps with 120hz on so damn fluid.

Mark and Execute isn't given away like free candy....you have to stealth kill in order to get just 1. So for a full set up you have to stealth kill 3 times.

It about balances it out.....so if you see someone saying they can run through marking and executing they lied.

[The Wood]

but i stopped taking you seriously when you started talking crap about when the next quality game on the ps3 was coming so basically you're acting the same as the people you're trying to shut down. SCC is NOT a 5 hour game...we get it

[SDF Repellent]

I think not having any games coming out for them to play in the next several months really increased the hate traffic of thesearticles related to X360 games. And remember, PS3 owners on N4g do not buy inferior third party games like Red Dead Redemption and Lost Planet 2, they only buy SONY classic AAAE games like WKC and MAG. /S

Next up on the hate list is Halo Reach Beta, then Alan Wake, then Crackdown 2, then Natal, and on and on.

[PeptoBismol]

you're taking this way too seriously

[stridershoge]

I have changed my mind on buying this game, I prefer single player games and I don't have Xbox live. Also the DRM on the P.C is a total turn off.

[bjornbear]

he wasn't rushing through was he? =/

still it does have co-op and MP but thats no excuse

the most important part of a game like SC:C is the SP, if its that short =/ shame

then again this could be like the GOWIII debacle where people on easy rushed through the game and came back to say it was 5 hours long xD

[PS360_37]

if you listen to the ZTGD podcast, the guys get pissed because they were adamant that GOW3 is beat easily in 8 hours on normal setting. FYI, the guy called it the best game of the year, but he was pissed at developers for coming out with the "the campaign is actually 10-12 hours" comments. When I played GOW without using a walk-through to try and find everything, but at the same time I tried to get everything, it took me 8.5 hours on normal.

Can't speak on the real length of SC:C, but I really doubt they are trying to lie about length of game, knowing that people are eventually going to play the game.

With all that said, 5 hours is a short campaign. I do enjoy all the extra PLAYABLE content, so the game is longer than 5 hours for me.

[bjornbear]

my point is, they probably rushed through it

GOWIII also took me 9 hours, but it felt like a lot longer

+ you say GOWIII is one play through just because its only single player, thats such a "new generation" mentality

i play single player games again and again to get trophies, unlock new stuff and do challenges

i've played roughly about 15 hours of GOWIII and will play through at least through titan mode again, so to say GOWIII has no longevity is utter bogus

this gen is jsut to obcessed with co-op and MP, i have no problem with that

I have a problem when that population becomes so big, they start forcing devs into adding MP and co-op just for the hell of it

with SC:C it probably works great, i love co-op in any game, and im sure even its single player is over 5 hours long

that said, as i said before, this article is bogus, thanks for the disagree though =D (who ever game em to me)

[PS360_37]

I know what your point is...and I am saying that you are wrong.

You just said it yourself, the campaign was 9 hours. Where was the 10-12 that it was said to take. So you rushed through it too? With all feelings aside about how many hours you can spend replaying the campaign, the reviewers gave the length they were SUPPOSED to give and got wrongly criticized for it. And like I said, I highly doubt that 20 reputable review sites let alone one, will lie about the length of a game everyone is about to be able to play. PERIOD. PS3 or 360 exclusives.

5 hours is not a long campaign no doubt, but with the addition of all the MP and coop(that a lot of people like, believe it or not ?!?!)this game will keep you busy for a while. That isn't even mentioning the re-playability of the campaign.

My main point for all this is, I do believe that this article is BS, but not because the reviewers that said the campaign is 5 hours long. It is wrong because this idiot author rates this game only on the length of the single player experience and nothing else.

Edit:

I gave you a disagree because I "disagree" with you you. Hard to beleiev... I know. :)

[bjornbear]

because i agree with everything you said, i'm just adding that both SC:C and GOWIII went through the same stupid crap, and thats the problem here

yes you are right SC:C has more content than GOWIII since it includes co-op and MP, and thus even if its 8 hours long its still a good package, i agree

but that takes nothing away from GOWIII, i don't even compare the two other than the fact that both have been scrutinized on the topic of single player length, and the scrutiny is stupid.

anyway, I gave you an agree, because i agree with you (hard to believe, i know ;))

[PS360_37]

lol fair enough. Ill give you a bubble because i already hit disagree.

I'm just saying I don't think reviewers really rush through the game. I can't say that some don't, but reviewers like IGN do a pretty thorough job. And its not the developers job to come out with some article saying "our game is 10-12 hours" when it clearly isn't.

Edit: I really don't think GOW3 has less re-playability than SC. Like you said, and I agree, GOW is very re-playable with multiple play throughs and the extra content they do provide. The trials of Olympus are challenging and took me a while to complete.

[hebelida]

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[hesido]

I'm sure they could have used cheap tricks to make you stay in an area longer, but they probably didn't want the game to feel stale because of it, and probably they had to confine to the spaces of the DVD..

Plus, they don't have the luxury of endless spawning enemies like COD can throw at you, the game type doesn't allow it.

[PeptoBismol]

I'm waiting for the spin on this story!

lol

[mcnablejr]

im just totally lost as to how these tard droids actually believe this drivel?

listen.
THIS GAME HAS COOP MULTIPLAYER. games like your heavy rain and god of rent three are significantly shorter because guess what? they are single player only. And they certainly aren't rpg's are they.

HILARIOUS.

[Erotic Sheep]

Yes mcnablejr because multiplayer is what made the Splinter Cell series great -.-

This is clearly your first console..

[The Simple Truth]

But you just know the stupid bots will buy it and Unbisoft will crap out more in the future.

Bots buy anything, even RROD.

[Ironfungus]

These companies today sicken me to death with lack of single player content. If you're going to make a multiplayer game with a campaign that lasts MAYBE five hours, don't bother making it at all.

Multiplayer is great, but don't expect me to pay $60+ for that. If I'm paying $60, the campaign better damn well have over 40 hours of content/single player/story. To say these developers are lazy is the understatement of the century. How could a game like this get so many delays? Like, it took you THAT LONG to make something like this? What...really?

Ubisoft, much like Infinity Ward, have no artists. Artists meaning people inside the company, developers, who really want to make a work of art. Rather, the gaming industry has become corrupted and its sole purpose is to make games for a "quick-buck". Just look at Modern Warfare 2.

When I grew up, you could count on $40 and under to buy you a game that EASILY lasted you 70 to 100 hours. Not only that, the game itself was a masterpiece and it left an impact on you, like a good book or movie. But any game that needs celebrities at its launch party to hype the game up is an automatic failure in my book (Conviction). That tells me immediately that the developers have no faith in their game and they KNOW it sucks, they just want to get as much money as possible before people start realizing that. Ubisoft, like TONS of other idiotic companies now, have taken note of the casual/mainstream crowd, and only make games for them. While that's fine, and they will get some money that way, they'll get no such business from me until they make a real work of art.

If anyone feels like nerd-raging over any truths from what I said above, don't bother. I'm just giving my cents and moving on.

[jax07]

Why the heck does this game have multiplayer? What happened to good single player games?

[Giro]

The game not only has Campaign and Co-op story mode, there's also the Hunter, Last Stand, Face-Off, and Infiltration.
All of which can be played solo or multiplayer, for those of you who actually read the IGN review they said the single player campaign was part of a larger package. They also said that you'll probably want to play it through more than once also.

So for all those people moaning about the length of the game, if you dont like it, dont buy it. Save your money or spend it on something else and stop whining about it.

[awesomeperson]

Bots and random news article: "B-b-but Splinter Cell: Conviction will be over 30 hours because of CO-OP!"

[mcnablejr]

it will be.. oh wait i forgot, i can barely talk to my mates on ps3 and it lacks any good coop games.

thats why i never use it.

[t_tocs]

This guy who writes these articles is a page view whore. He admits he never played the game and is basically going off another persons review of the game (one review, not a couple) to get his "keep that sh*t theory." He's an amateur with a blog that unfortunately has a podium to spout his whining. Just look at the comments on the page and you'll realize the kind of people he is writing for.

[StitchJones]

Cancelled my pre-order. I just cannot cough up a full 60$ for a game with that short of a single player experience. I'm not longer on XBL so I will not be able to enjoy those other features. Oh well, at least I found out ahead of time.
And I feel that IGN is being paid to give it such a high review, if you notice their site is littered with advertisement items. IGN doesn't normally give such high praises to a game with such a short experience. I smell BS.

[Tony-A]

F*ck, if it's that short, why not just put in the ability to pick up bodies and bring it down to 3 hours....

[interrergator]

plus coop is story line 2 that gives the hours a boost and u got multiplayer

[gamingisnotacrime]

after playing ME2, Demons Souls, AC2, etc etc i know those $60 can give me a LOT more than a 5 hour campaign, with MP but still the campaign in a SC game is most important

[midgard227]

honestly thats why i always loved jrpgs so much since the last few gens had so many when we paid 50 at the time we were always gonna get atleast 20 hours if it was a short rpg. other games like star ocean 3 i clocked in 210 hours.

rpgs in general are my fav genre, they are always long and im not ripped off with 5 hour campaign

[PS360_37]

This game was gamefly for me anyways. I don't see how people are pissed, when the game still has a lot of other content. Of course that completely gets ignored by the fanboys.

[Xfanboy]

isn't god of war like 7 hours with no mltiplayer?? but i guess it doesn't matter!!!

[PS360_37]

I also love how the "reputable" articles that get posted on here are titles like "Hey Ubisoft, 5 Hours? Keep That Sh*t!"

Good work PS3 fanboys.

[SoulAssassin808]

This article was made by a guy that didn't even play the full game, he just heard it from the IGN review. The part he missed were multiple playthroughs and co-op that extend this time by another 10-15h

I feel sorry for the retards who approved this story

[xaviertooth]

greenberg: we don't need blu-ray, dvd is enough for our idiot followers.

[Djinn]

Heavenly Sword was bashed to hell for its short length. So why isn't this game getting low scores too? Why the hell do crapbox games get free passes?

[midgard227]

army of two and this game get gr8 reviews when they r so short, yet heavenly sword had amazing everything but length and it gots shot down for it.

w/e people r morons, we all know HS got lower reviews cuz lack of blood and it not being on 360

[xaviertooth]

idiots: yeah we believe you master greenberg!

[Ve3tro]

All lies, I completed it over the weekend at 9.5 hours.

[midgard227]

lets delay this game for years and still make it only 5 hours!!!!! o and lets take out dragging dead bodies!!!!

[matey]

BECAUSE IF WANT HIGH END GRAPHICS U WILL SUFFER ON GAME LENGTH FULL STOP THE HD SYSTEMS OUT TODAY ARE NOT POWERFUL ENOUGH TO MAKE 5OHOUR GAMES WITH AMAZING GRAPHICS UNLESS U TAKE 5 YEARS ON THE THING FUTURE HARDWARE WOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT AT 10 TIMES THE PACE ITS CALLED TECH DOES THINGS QUICKER AS IT GETS BETTER IE BIGGER GAMES WITH BIGGER GRAPGICS ZELDA WII WILL BE THE BIGGEST ACTION ADVENTURE THIS GEN NOT RPG ACTION ADVENTURE

[GMWPS3]

A single player experience should always be in the forefront of any good game. You need a good/great story to set the mood and lead to a good multi-player session as a dessert of sorts.

That said, there should always be an offline multi-player option. I prefer playing with friends in the same room than over the internet. It is much more enjoyable and always funnier as you poke fun at each other with varying facial expressions. Doesn't anyone remember playing 4 player in GoldenEye on the N64??? That was the defining moment for offline multi-player experience! It set the standard which others seem unwilling to follow.

As for Splinter Cell it probably takes more than 5 hours to get through. I remember people saying Heavenly Sword was only 5 hours but I took about 7-9 hours and I must say that the acting in that game was excellent. It was worth my $60 for that experience.

[Silber]

Then you will get exactlky what you want. You can play the long Splinter Cell Multiplayer Story Campaign via Split-Screen.

[Silber]

The completly different Co-Op Campaing (wich you can play in single Play too) is also 5-6 Hours long. So it´s really ok if you have a 5 Hour Story-Mode. With all the possibilities on how you can get trough a Level, it seems like a good replay Value too. The Demo Alone had many possibilities.

[corneliuscrust]

was not disappointed. So many morons on both sides...

[Darkfiber]

Yeahhhh that's a no sale for me. Maybe get it when it's cheap down the line, but there's better stuff coming out. Never been huge on Splinter Cell anyway.

[Dance]

The 2 player co-op alone supposely adds an additional 15 hours

[Dance]

Did you also skip Mirrors Edge and Metal Gear Solid 4 for being short?

[orange-skittle]

I refused to buy Mirrors Edge and bought Army of Two, Quantum of Solace, Wanted, and Heavy Rain used for being so short. Paying $63 just so you can have it day one is retarded. I am happy playing Bad Company 2 right now. The single player campaign was actually better this time around, but short like MW2. You can see where it's more theatrical and setting you up for a sequel. I am anxious to see where they take it for the next installment. I am a Splinter Cell whore, but I might have to buy this used.

[Enigma_2099]

... I don't care what system it's on. Doesn't sound like your money's worth there.

[yourgodisdead]

Any game which has a main story mood under 6 hours is too short

[orange-skittle]

Heavy Rain has to be the shortest game I have played this year. GoW3 is a 2 day game if you play the hell out of it, but is still a long ass game. Splinter Cell is based on timing and changes on how you approach situations.

[dj55555555]

you do know that your ment to play heavy rain more then once?

[yourgodisdead]

Heavy rain varies depending on how you play it, and I finished both gears in two days. Although it was on Co-op.

[Surt]

SO I'm still going to get it. But DAMN 5hrs?! Forget the damn multiplayer. What? its going to add an extra two weeks for the A.D.D. kids? It true. Everyone says multiplayer adds replay, but no one plays those kinds of game for more then a month. Then its on to something else.

I played resistance online for two years before I got bored! Still playing warhawk, and killzone 2. I don't know man, use to be people stayed on games longer..

[Rowsdower]

where people come to hate gaming

[tiamat5]

I never understand how a game that has a 3-5 hour campaign could still get high scores. In my book that is an automatic 8 at best. But everyone always argues that it has a rich multiplayer experience.If that is all they care about, then why doesn't the company make a multiplayer game only? Because then they wouldn't be able to justify the $60.00 price tag. Uncharted 2 gave us the best of both worlds, so why couldn't you Ubisoft?

[clarkjudo]

"We've only really touched upon the single player aspects of the game, not mentioning the additional co-op campaign which offers up to four hours or more play time, and the adversarial Face Off mode which again can offer limitless amounts of replay value. So to conclude, that for your $60 a five hour experience is simply not good enough, yet what gamers need to look at is the entire package, and remember that there's far more than 5 hours worth of entertainment with this game."

http://www.msxbox-world.com...

[renegade]

This game should be priced 49.99. 5 hours Campain = dissapointment

[Rowsdower]

this is where it ends, N4G has been nothing but a waste of time. People hate on games and gamers on this website like its their job. You see something someone might enjoy, than half of you take to the forums and talk sh*t about it.

A reviewer rushes through a game and it comes out at 5hrs, we are just talking the single player campaign here, and its the end of the world. When it happens to a game you like you'll defend it. Then we just ignore all the other content like it does not matter. Whats the point?

Most of you are sad motherf*ckers and you are whats wrong with gaming. So f*ck you all. I'm done. N4G is a sh*t website because it fosters the worst in gaming: fanboys and flamebait.

Have a sh*tty day.

[Dellis]

^shut your yapping Fanboy, this is a real gamer in the article, if you think 59.99 is good for 5hrs then you're the reason gaming is a joke thee days.

btw

Biggest mistake they made was restarting this game over

they should had kept the Assassin's Creed Splinter Cell

they started making with him looking like a bum hiding like Altair.

[clarkjudo]

"The main campaign will apparently last up to 12 hours and can be replayed in a variety of different ways. Each time we replayed a level, there were different routes to be explored and new strategies to execute."

http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/a...

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Not everyone cares about the single player of games. I personally do. But I have met plenty of people on xbox-live whom never played the single player of Halo 3, mw2 series, and cod series.

And I guess given the crying here by a majority of people that don't even have intent play this game it arriving on the ps3 is non-issue all the sudden. For two months all the whining was, " Splinter cell is coming to ps3 rumors" left and right! Now nobody cares.

[VanDamme]

someone said the PS3 version will be 6-7 hours...?

[CrIpPeN]

At least we don't have to worry about swapping disc, LOL

But I hope this is not going be a trend.

[prettyboy1]

this game was delayed several times jus to have dumbed down graphics and a short campagin and no spies vs mercs?yea kiss my butt ubi

[blakstarz]

this is why they should of sold this game for 39.99.