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PlayStation cloud streaming vs Microsoft xCloud

Digital foundry doing comparisons of Playstation streaming vs Xbox's cloud streaming. Come see the results.

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shinoff218392d ago

Even though I'm not interested in streaming what so ever. I found this interesting.

crazyCoconuts92d ago

PS wiping the floor with Xbox even in the streaming department? I guess Azure wasn't as much of an advantage as some thought...

ThinkThink92d ago

"Wiping the floor"? You watched the same video I did?

Einhander197292d ago (Edited 92d ago )

@ThinkThink

"That brings us to the next crucial point: how PS Plus Cloud compares to Microsoft's Xbox Cloud Gaming. The service is still technically in beta, but it's been this way for years and is offered as an Xbox Game Pass perk on the Ultimate subscription. It's a fair point of comparison in this respect but, to be blunt, the Xbox cloud offering simply does not compete with the PS+ Premium service from a technological perspective, for a multitude of reasons."

"In image quality, for example, it's significantly worse, with a maximum 1080p resolution video stream against 4K on PlayStation. The bitrate is also visibly lower in step with that resolution target, something that's evident in just about every game we tested. A Plague Tale Requiem, compared running in its 60fps mode across PS5, PS+ Cloud and Xbox Cloud Gaming (image comparison further down this page), shows just how far Microsoft is behind here."

"There's an extra twist to this too. Not only is the video stream lower quality on Xbox's cloud gaming service, but users are being served the Xbox Series S versions of each game I tested - despite confirmation from Microsoft that xCloud datacentres are built on Series X silicon."

"Speaking of value, the cost of each has to be mentioned too. The PlayStaion Plus Premium tier costs £13.50/$18 per month or at a slight discount for £120/$160 a year. For that you currently get 851 games available to stream right away, 201 of which are PS5 titles. The catalogue varies by region too, but it's an impressive number. And as a bonus, specific additional PS5 titles are available for cloud streaming if you happen to have bought them through the PlayStation store already, such as Cyberpunk 2077. By comparison Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, the tier that includes streaming, costs a similar £13/$17 a month. In exchange, you get access to 402 cloud-ready games overall, including 225 for Series X/S."

helicoptergirl92d ago

I would not say 'wiping the floor'. But it seems the PS cloud streaming is just better at this point in time.

just_looken91d ago

Na this is one sided to me makes 0 sense buying a ps5 to play ps5 games on stream service.

With xbox you can stream on any device even android tv's with a controller.

They are comparing ps5 console streaming ps5 games vs a series x streaming xbox games on a remote xbox one s.

How about ps app android streaming vs xbox app android streaming no ps5 like a sane person would.

crazyCoconuts91d ago

@jlookin, this article is comparing streaming quality between the services, not about whether you like streaming from a console or not.

RaiderNation91d ago (Edited 91d ago )

Either way who cares. Cloud streaming sucks regardless and I want no part of it.

ConsoleAgnostic91d ago

Doesn't Playstation use Azure !? Lol

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shinoff218391d ago

Sorry about the video yall. I've never had to embed anything so I'm trying to figure it out.

ocelot0792d ago

That's actually fairly surprising. I had to rely on both Xbox cloud and PSN now a few months ago and both worked really well and didn't really notice any difference in them. Maybe that's because I streamed to a phone I really don't know.

ApocalypseShadow92d ago

Lol. Yeah. I think it was because you were streaming to a phone.

just_looken91d ago

@ocelot 100%

What you see here is them using a ps5 to remote stream ps5 games because that is the only way you can do that were as xbox is using a remote series S console.

psn android uses ps4 era hardware vs a series S so xbox is better there.

To me it makes no sense why i would buy a ps5 console to stream a ps5 game instead of downloading it to the hardware like a sane person.

shinoff218391d ago (Edited 91d ago )

I prefer physical, but I'd definitely rather download to the console then to rely on the internet

Lexreborn291d ago

Well if you have say a service that provides you ps5 digital games for “free” and you were on the fence or waiting for a deal and it’s there. Want to try it immediately and not use your storage the streaming makes a lot of sense.

If you are equipped to handle streaming and higher quality and the latency isn’t an issue or not twitch for say an Action or competitive game. Streaming can also work there, technology advances in options no reason to buckle down on an old method that isn’t going away.(well for Xbox it is)

badz14991d ago

@just_looken

what video did you watch? this is comparing streaming to PS5 and streaming to the Series X! the only thing xbox streaming is doing better here is having slightly lower controller input lag in Back4Blood and CP2077 while having worse graphics and framerates.

keep being in denial all you want but stop spreading false info.

ocelot0791d ago

What "sane" person takes the full ps5 console to the bathroom? Or keep moving the console to another room in the house. Or take the console to work? Doesn't sound like a sane person to me that.

just_looken90d ago

@lex

I have this service on my ps5 you can download or stream the game on a ps5 you already have access to every DD of each stream able ps5 game. There is 0 reason to stream ps5 games on a ps5

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Hypertension14091d ago (Edited 91d ago )

DF should also test the remote play on both systems.I tried remote play on both using Batman Arkham Knight as a test.

Interestingly, the differences I found were similar to the cloud streamings. The PS5 had a much clearer and stable image, while the Xbox lagged so much more but has slightly less input lag.

anast91d ago

PS is better at streaming than Xbox, ha. Xbox is definitely going all Android soon.

PhillyDonJawn91d ago (Edited 91d ago )

So the difference is that PScloud is streaming ps5 hardware while for some reason Xcloud is streaming from series S hardware instead of series X.

From my experience streaming via phone is pretty much unplayable while streaming on console was very good quality that's nearly like playing natively. I don't understand why

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Final Fantasy VII Rebirth Combat Director Wants Final Part To Offer Players "Even More Freedom"

The Final Fantasy VII Rebirth combat director has expressed that he wants the final part in the trilogy to offer players "even more freedom".

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gold_drake15h ago

i wonder if where gonna be able to jump

-Foxtrot9h ago

I love the game so far but please don’t make the final part a mini game fest

Everytime I get to a new part in Rebirth it’s “mini game time”

Inverno3h ago

Hope ya don't mind me asking since it seems like you've played it, did it feel like a decent step up from the last game or was it more like the best from the last but more polished?

CS73h ago

It makes Remake feel like a demo.

9.5/10 imo. And I think the “mini games” did a great job of adding variety to the gameplay. Purely optional as well.

-Foxtrot2h ago

Here's my thoughts

I think it's a big step up from the first instalment, I'm enjoying it way more.

I thought keeping it just in Midgar was silly, it felt dragged out and it didn't have much variation in terms of the scenery.

However with Rebirth, as soon as you get out of Kalm you have a big world to explore and it's great to just wander round and explore.

Now that I'm half way in though, despite still liking what I'm playing, the gameplay loop is now starting to slow down on me. I've got to a new region and I'm like "Yaaay...need to go and find those towers again, oh look another special beast marker, is that a bird I see in the distance? Better follow it to another Mako Crystal"

It's like....you know how Peter Jackson was only supposed to have two Hobbit films then Warner Bros wanted a third film so he stretched the second film out as much as he could so he could keep stuff for the third film making a trilogy? Yeah it feels like that, so these mini games are a part of that overall gameplay loop to keep us going and stretch the game out overall so they have something for the third and final game.

I personally think you could have had the first instalment get you out of Midgar and through to Grasslands / Junon and the second game finishes things off.

Becuzisaid3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I had a weird cycle of love/hate for all the mini games as I played through. At first I really hated the seeming need to check all these boxes while exploring the grasslands. I didn't enjoy the Gilgamesh quest initially, and thought Queen's blood was fine but didn't want to commit to it. The side quests didn't really grab me either.

Then for some reason everything in Junon region changed my mind and I did pretty much everything. I liked most of the side quests, I actually liked playing fort condor (didn't care for it in the intergrade dlc). And my interest for completing these quests stayed pretty much through to Cosmo Canyon.

Then they added that horrible Lifestream memory/battle mini game and I started getting so burnt out of it all. I just wanted to do the story. I didn't do any side quests in neibleheim and beyond except for the summon. I abandoned Gilgamesh.

So what I'm saying is I would like the third part to go back to the focused progression from remake. Keep the mini games to the gold saucer. Start the game snowboarding if you want, but from there keep the story rolling.

-Foxtrot1h ago

That's funny you say that because I did everything in the Grasslands but once in Junon I started to slow down a little until Corel where by the end I was burnt out. I'm still currently going but I'm just doing what I can while things keep getting thrown at me.

I would have preferred half of these mini game side fillers / collectibles for some really beefy side quests that really adds onto the world of FFVII.

Inverno1h ago

Sounds like they hadn't really figured out what they wanted to do with Remake and this one is more of what they thought of doing which is probably why they're dragging it out to make a trilogy. Disappointed to hear it has towers cause man do i hate towers lol. It's been a while since I've played the first and it'll be a while longer to play the sequel, but it sounds like I'll enjoy it. 7 really impressed me especially after being disappointed with 15, felt like Square finally realized that FF was THEIR big franchise again.

MetroidFREAK212h ago

As long as it comes out on PS5 to have the entire series on one platform, do whatever you want

franwex1h ago

The combat is my favorite thing about Rebirth. Would be really cool if they can improve it even more.

Knightofelemia54m ago

I hope after FF7 Square will either give a new FF game the remake treatment. Or give some of their older titles a remake treatment like Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, even Xenogears.

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Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's Scope Was Impacted by Xbox Series S Limitations

Wccf tech writes: "Kingdom Come Deliverance 2's scope was impacted by the Xbox Series S hardware limitations, as developers could only make a game that was 25% bigger than its predecessor."

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-Foxtrot9h ago

This is the issue with things like this

Xbox Series X is apparently to MS the worlds most powerful console

However the Series S is obviously a limitation because it’s underpowered and developers have to go for parity.

So what’s the point of the world’s most powerful console if you are holding third party developers back? They aren’t going to push themselves if they have to think about the weakest console.

The issue wouldn’t be as bad if it was just Xbox but you are also affecting the PS version aswell

I think developers need to start just taking advantage of a console and if one of them can’t do X Y and Z then f*** them…why should the others suffer. What’s MS going to do? The bigger the franchise the least chance MS are going to tell them to f*** off. Baulders Gate 3 seemed to have stood their ground and suddenly their “strict” parity rule didn’t really matter. We suddenly got super optimisation efforts for the Series S that got things sorted.

anast5h ago

I agree, and the sad part is use normal folk saw it the second they announced their plans.

Abear211h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Agree 100% this is why I didn’t want the M$ Monopoly, now PS5 version will be held back too.

If PS5 Pro comes out and Series S is still a thing it’ll be interesting what differences and what devs choose to do. Really hoping Rockstar pushes the PS5 pro with GTA6 and we get the best version possible.

LucasRuinedChildhood9h ago

More info from the author of the article, I think: https://www.reddit.com/r/ki...

Quote:
"1) I was told this info from the producer of the game Martin Klíma.
2) He specifically said the game will have only one mode.
3) And this mode is 4K 30 on PS5/XSX and 1440p 30 on XSS.
4) He said that the game is already running north of the 30 FPS cap so the performance should be stable on launch, much better than KCD1.
5) The limitation was XSS because of the 10GB memory. He said that's why they wanted to make the game 25% larger.
6) Speculation on my part: the output resolution is probably upscaled and the reason why there won't be a 60 FPS mode is because it'll most likely be very CPU heavy, like Dragon's Dogma 2 for example."

Doesn't seem like they're adding a 40fps mode on PS5/Series X for launch even if they can handle it.

Sgt_Slaughter5h ago

I'd much rather have 1440p/60fps or even 45fps. Having just one, even with the Series S in mind, is disappointing.

franwex4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Remember when xbots were adamant that the series s won’t hold back the gen?

Microsoft just needs to let go of the mandatory parity. Who cares if your grandma doesn’t understand that a game cannot be played on the S. It’s not like it she can buy you a physical game for it anyway. Before buying the game put up a notice that it only works on series X. If you’re buying for a friend-allow for a refund.

Bam. Everyone is happy. Most series s owners are for casuals that want Game Pass anyway and most likely don’t purchase most games.

If the developers want it to run on S, let them figure it out.

Jin_Sakai4h ago

“During the event, the Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 producer also revealed that on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X, the game will run at 4K resolution and 30 frames per second“

Another “creative decision” right? 🤦‍♂️

IHateNate3h ago

Amateur hour. Very incapable developer.

Outside_ofthe_Box3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Since you're not an amateur and clearly know more than them, can you over there and help get the game running on the S without having to sacrifice their true vision. Us gamers would really appreciate you using your wisdom for good 🙏

IHateNate3h ago

Thousands of games run just fine on S.

But Kingdom Come is the game that can’t. Must be one hell of a game!

franwex1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Thousands of games run on PS4 and on Switch. If developers want them to run on those systems. Fine. Those two platforms still get new games. Sony isn’t making studios also make a ps4 pro version, or Nintendo a wiiu version. Microsoft technically is.

IHateNate18m ago(Edited 18m ago)

If games like Alan Wake 2, GTA6, COD, hellblade all run on S, no excuse for this 100x smaller and 100x worse looking game to be held back.

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Celebrate the Diablo Anniversary with March of the Goblins

Come celebrate the 1-year anniversary of Diablo IV and the 2-year anniversary of Diablo Immortal! There are heaps of rewards to mark these celebrations with a bounty of devilish goods across both games.

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anast10h ago

This game is about to get buried by Path 2.

LordoftheCritics9h ago

Still no global chat or group finder.

The emptiest MP game ever made.

OtterX9h ago

1 more month then I can celebrate 1 year since i stopped playing and uninstalled the game.

Walalon7h ago

We are on the same team brother!

Rynxie4h ago

I uninstalled d4 after they kept screwing over the sorc build and I beat the game. I also uninstalled immortal after reading the end. I actually went back to d2r here and there.