PS5 Update Was Originally Planned for GDC 2020

We’ll get a deep dive on the PlayStation 5 from lead system architect Mark Cerny tomorrow, but what’s with the curious timing?

[Axonometri]

The other big ? is, will we SEE the PS5?

[Atom666]

I'm 50/50 on whether they do or not.

Price is still the biggest question in my view, but I'm not expecting that for a while.

[Axonometri]

Same on 50%. Crossing fingers and toes for visual reveal. Price at this point... Well, I just hope I can get food and supply right now. I already had to dip into 2020 console savings. I am sure I am not the only one.

[Eonjay]

The moral to this story is that GDC was supposed to be this week. This was always when we were gonna find out. So all that nonsense about everyone losing their cool was stupid.

[neutralgamer1992]

atom

$399 trust me on that

[bouzebbal]

Games and futureproof features are my most wanted things when I choose a console

[StormSnooper]

I’m more excited to see the controller’s capabilities but I can’t deny that the box has me curious. On the other hand they called it a architectural deep dive. Yes? Maybe no box reveal yet.

[bouzebbal]

We won't see it, it's the architect talking about the architecture and how they are planning diverse things. The physical shape is part of the marketing, and that'll be announced later

[Atom666]

No shame in needing to prioritize. We all have more important things to spend money on right now.

I expect these systems are going to be very similar. If they're both going to be 12tf or more with the SSDs on top, I really want to see where they come in at for price.

The more powerful, the less sleek they'll be. Curious if Sony also goes functional design over aesthetics like the X.

[Iberius]

I would posit functional over aesthetic due to the rumors about Sony investing in a high end cooling system; however, I’m hoping for both!

[darthv72]

I'm hopeful he will show a mock up of the finished product and go through the various features. Hope he shows the controller as well.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I'm pretty confident they'll show off the hardware. I feel like its a good time right now.Sony should be in a finish state especially if the rumors are true of their smooth developmental cycles.

[Ju]

I don't need to see the hardware. Some ballpark specs and games, games, games. I want to see why I would want to buy this. I want to see what makes it worth upgrading - more than just frame rate and resolution. This was supposed to be a developer conference. I want to see that. Some tech demos - and games, even if those would be PS5 versions of top PS4 games - I sure would like to see a glimpse of Ghost of Tsushima, The Last of Us 2; but you know, I would be fine with Killzone SF re-imagined (with RT, 4K and 60fps), or GoW, or even GT. But some real content enhanced. Maybe Godfall as a next gen title because it was already announced. I doubt this is the time for new game reveals, though. Spider man with 8k and faster loading I could give a pass, but not just running PS4 games on that machine; I want to see enhancements.

[Visceral89]

@Ju I think we definitely see Gran Turismo, could be Sport running 8k or 4k 120fps, but better yet would be a glimpse of the next GT. Horizon 2 demo for PS5 would be a dream to see. Probably a Spider-man PS5 loading demo and seeing how much faster Spiderman can we sling through the city

[spambot0815]

since half of the world is in quarantine now and big events are a no, no for the foreseeable future, they might as well do the reveal like that.

[jznrpg]

Im guessing no . If they were I’d guess they’d say so. But there’s a chance of course .

[porkChop]

I think after such a long wait for the reveal, it would be in poor taste to not show us the system. Just reveal everything and get this out of the way.

[Mr_cheese]

I can imagine this is also a huge blow for GDC as they would have been the reveal platform which doesn't happen every year...

[RazzerRedux]

You mean there was actually a logical reason for Sony not revealing any information about the PS5 until now?

Not possible!

/s

[Redemption-64]

According to some people it's because Sony was scared of MS

[darthv72]

And according to others it was Sony waiting to see what MS does first.

[RememberThe357]

Well with the ass whooping MS put on Sony this gen... Oh wait.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

Actually, it was according to so called journalists and puff pieces or were saying those things first. We all know that was a flat out lie. W're only a month removed from when Sony unveiled the PS4. One month means PS5 IS DOOMED!....

[Redemption-64]

@darthv72
And there is nothing wrong with wait and see. Sony is the market leader, No one forced MS to drop news about their next gen system and if I was competing with someone that cannot keep quiet, I will wait too, even if I have the clear advantage.

[MasterCornholio]

Some people acted like they wouldnt even reveal the system before releasing it due to that. Any logical person knows that it's just false. Even if it turns out to be weaker Sony will still reveal it before selling it.

With that said people need to focus on what Cerny will say about the specifications tomorrow. That will tell us the strengths and weaknesses that it will have when compared to the competitors system.

[StormSnooper]

Yes because MS really showed Sony... oh umm wait.

[KillBill]

According to the now released specs we see why they should be scared. It is PS4 Pro vs Xbox One X all over again in terms of which is the more powerful console.

[Tross]

Gotta love the hypocrisy of games journalism these days. /s

[GaboonViper]

What madness is going on, next thing PS5 will be scared of Stradia.

[Segata]

I want to see the console and please look like a console and not a kitchen appliance.

[darthv72]

the only console I've ever seen that looked like a kitchen appliance was the NES toaster, but that was custom made.

I guess the original PS3 did sort of look like a forman grill but that's about it.

[Segata]

Xbox Sex looks like a fridge. NES was a toaster. Gamecube was a lunchbox. PS3 was a grill.

[darthv72]

The SX looks nothing like a fridge (mini or otherwise). If anything it looks like a sub woofer and is the same size. It is equal to two game cubes stacked. People just want to see things how they want instead of how they are.

[Traecy]

It looks like a portable speaker.

[Atticus_finch]

Haaa!

[snoopgg]

Does this include your perception of the design.

[StormSnooper]

All jokes aside, it does resemble a cheese grater. At least it reminds me of one. Not saying it’s ugly, but it had its best impression on me when it was first revealed, the more time passes, and novelty wears off, the less appealing it looks. But, looks isn’t that high up my priorities anyway.

[ShadowWolf712]

It looks like it should come with Alexa.

[Sitdown]

What's the rules for what a console us supposed to look like?

[jznrpg]

Makes sense

[Sitdown]

What's the launch price everyone is willing to pay?
What if it was fully backwards even with the the portables?

I'm ready to lock in a pre-order.

[Ju]

Doesn't really matter to me. They can release a Pro model and I would still get it if it were $800. But I guess, for most even $400 is steep.

[StormSnooper]

I would pay 599.99 no problems. Anything higher, It would hurt, but still getting.

[timotim]

I'm very excited! What the console looks like, its features, the tech that went into the controller...very exciting.

[Atticus_finch]

Better have that Jaw reinforced for tomorrow.

[timotim]

Haha Its possible. We will see.

[StormSnooper]

<: my face is stuck in this shape right now.

[sampsonon]

Mark Cerny is a mad scientist. I can't wait to see what madness he built.

[Tekken66634]

" I can't wait to see what madness he built."

what AMD built you mean. Navi, Zen, and RDNA architecture belongs to AMD.
Cerny and Spencer just repeat it.

[ShadowWolf712]

Not so. It's designed by Cerny, including the custom parts. HE's the one who decides which parts to use, what they want them to do, etc. AMD makes those parts, yes, but to HIS Specifications.

[MetroidFREAK21]

I would love to see the final design of the console during this

[Father__Merrin]

sorry but cerney really does look evil

[NXFather]

He looks like he worships Satan. But, some evils come in nice packaging too.

[AK91]

The bigger question is will the consoles be delayed till next year, I'm fairly certain they will but you never know.

[StormSnooper]

Oh man, it’s going to be intense. I like the sound of “deep dive”. While you are at it, let us know what’s in store for next gen VR!

[terstomp]

It seems Sony will have the lesser TFLOPS, but I think they'll pick up in other areas. I will not be buying the Xbox because of the simple fact the Xbox controllers will not have motion detection built in. And of course there are zero exclusives on the Xbox that I like. So for me, and for many others, the little more power the Xbox may have won't even matter to me. Microsoft will milk the PR to max though.

[Ju]

Nothing ever confirmed the TFlops for the PS5...or even the X1X until its reveal. Just saying. Sony never had anything like that in their messaging. So...we'll see.

I wonder, do you guys ever think, the company that sold AMD twice as many chips as MS and made them basically twice the money won't have any perks developing a new chip?

[DaniMacYo]

I personally think Sony may not show off the console physically or digitally, but man I sure hope they surprise us and show us what it looks like.

[chiefJohn117]

I don't believe that cause if it was true they would've been told us this. Who waits a week before an event bout to happen to go..."oh we was gonna be there" sorry not buying it.

[Max_Eckhardt]

The PS5 better be a beast! It better have at least 14 flops!

[LimpTool]

The max is only 10.28. Still going to be a beast though.

[KillBill]

MS came out with a complete spec list. If Sony doesn't follow suit than anything presented will be pointless.

[solidt12]

they already did it’s on Digital foundry. CPU: 8x Zen 2 Cores at 3.5GHz (variable frequency)
GPU: 10.28 TFLOPs, 36 CUs at 2.23GHz (variable frequency)
GPU Architecture: Custom RDNA 2
Memory Interface: 16GB GDDR6/256-bit
Memory Bandwidth: 448GB/s
Internal Storage: Custom 825GB SSD
IO Throughput: 5.5GB/s (Raw), Typical 8-9GB/s (Compressed)
Expandable Storage: NVMe SSD Slot
External Storage: USB HDD Support
Optical Drive: 4K UHD Blu-ray Drive

[343_Guilty_Spark]

It's a nice step up from the Pro.

[beulahland]

The most boring keynote EVER. Fake audience? How tacky!

[LimpTool]

Those poor 4 people watching that presentation

[Phantom68]

So great SSD speed plus support of external HDD (for storage only or PS4 backward compatibility), support for external SSD (list of compatible ones to follow) and no use of custom SSD memory cards, great 3d Audio custom hardware and a custom RNDA2 GPU tech with 36 CU, variable frequency but GPU is cappped at 2.23Ghz 10.3 Tflop (power consumptions, heat and performance balance). Mark has cautioned us all to avoid looking a TFlops and CU count to judge the GPU performance due to backward compatible and custom elements to help geometry rendering however I sense there will be discontent when compared to the Xbox 12 Tflops GPU and I suspect PS5 will launch at a lower price to become more attractive. I will wait for a Digital Foundry video to get an idea of what they think of the PS5 specs

[Bronxs15]

I have to move furniture to my ceiling. After all they hype and expectations in the comments yesterday about the event the games Sony coming with the artillery and the 13 tf ps5 more powerful rumours and hype now after this deep dive Sony fan boy tears are causing floods

[Bronxs15]

Ms clearly have the better vision for next gen right now and are more confident.

[Vithar]

well that was boring AF lol