Xbox One X's Albert Penello impressed and 'surprised' by PS4 Pro

The Xbox One X is the most powerful console ever made, but coming a year after the PS4 Pro, we wondered if Microsoft was concerned about being seen as a bit late to the party. But Albert Penello, who leads marketing for Xbox consoles globally, told MCV that he was full of admiration for the PS4 Pro:

[Deep-throat]

I am not impressed by the Pro because it ain't pro enough!

No, the console is fine but it's weird Sony didn't bother updating their big games...

Bloodborne
Driveclub
Uncharted collection
Gravity Rush remaster
God of War 3 remaster
Killzone shadow fall
Alienation
Until Dawn

[WePlayDirty]

"It's weird Sony didn't bother updating their big games"...

It's the developers that choose to update their games.

[Bigpappy]

All of the games he mentioned are PS4 exclusives. I agree with him. Sony has enough influence to keep content off of other consoles, but cant even get their w exclusives updated?

Can't let you put this one on developers.

[Deep-throat]

Bro I'm pretty sure that's Sony's decision. They can hire any studio to update their games for the Pro.

[S2Killinit]

But you should be impressed considering they are killing the competition by offering...games.

[Death]

@S2,

I was under the impression it was the larger global appeal. Game sales don't justify your opinion since we see how many these games sell and how sales impacted some of the developers. Attach rates between PS4 and its closest competitor are the same. I'm not sure how you can conclude releasing more games resulted in higher sales.

[Cryptcuzz]

@bigpappy

I'm sure there developers are busy creating new exclusive games rather than updating old games that have been released prior to the Pro's release. Almost all, if not all those franchise mentioned are already having their next game developed now and you can bet that it'll have Pro support.

[bouzebbal]

i've got to agree with him on this one..
developers do the update, but the publisher pays the ressources. not sure you know the difference developer/publisher.
i am also surprised not many 1st party titles are patched.

[Unspoken]

No good counter arguments from the Pony's. Just means they are losing...and sore at that.

Those tears are delicious, but they won't make the PS4 any more powerful.

[FoxyGotGame]

@UNSPOKEN "No good counter arguments from the Pony's. Just means they are losing...and sore at that.
Those tears are delicious, but they won't make the PS4 any more powerful."

MSFT show admiration to Sony for PS4 Pro and all the likes of you can do is bare your insecurities in what amounts to nothing more than imaginary console fanboy warfare. Whether kiddin' or not, you've displayed true embarrassment to the game community ...

*Sigh

[pinkcrocodile75]

@WePlayDirty I'm happy for you to say it's not Sony's fault, just down to the developers because that is the exact same rule of thumb for Microsoft. 4k@60 is always down to the developers for all vendors so Sony and Microsoft's job was to build a system they believe would do the job and its now down to the developers to make their games shine, not Sony's and no Microsoft's. End of!

[spreadlove]

If it is the developers that choose to update their games, then developers seem to prefer to update Xbox games for the power of Xbox One X. I wonder why. Is it because it is so much more awesome somehow on Xbox?

[Captain_Tom]

I don't buy that at all. Sony is the leader of their own ecosystem and it is up to them to take the initiative and simply tell devs they need to update these games.

[DivineAssault]

Some devs get incentives but most of them choose to do this.. Practice for next gen as well as making their game more appealing..

[k2d]

Not at all weird if MS opts to go the extra mile to polish their xbox 360 for xbox one x..

On the other hand - why should Sony spend money and resources on PS3 upgrades, when they can focus on new PS4 Pro titles? It's not like they've got MS breathing down their necks quite yet..

[WePlayDirty]

@Pappy

Whatever influence Sony has to keep content off other consoles has nothing to do with developers updating their games for PS4 Pro.

Games released before the Pro came out are supported with the Boost Mode feature on the Pro.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

You're not impressed by the Pro, but have no qualms or suggestions to improve the hardware...

[lukferr]

You know what they are doing without a doubt? FOCUSING nearly all of their attention on NEW Exclusives. More massive games that can only be played on Playstation. Horizon Zero Dawn is the best looking open-world game this generation. Just breath takingly amazing. PS4 is where it's at. This is my opinion of course, but it's an opinion shared by the vast majority of gamers.

[Kavorklestein]

Actually, out of that VAST majority you speak of, only about 10% bought HZD. More people chose PS4 for performance. An edge Ps4 AND Pro are about to lose.. whether by an inch or by a mile... these days, power wins.
Exclusives are the last hurrah of people trying to de-value competition and general enjoyment.
The best gamers see value everywhere they look.
Fanboy losers see nothing more than reasons to hate on everyone/everything till they die.

[lukferr]

@ Kavoklestein, who in the hell said they were choosing PS4 for the performance boost? They chose it because of Playstation's history and brand name and what that means for games in general.
I also meant that the vast majority of gamers think PS4 is better than Xbox console. Because it is.

[Kavorklestein]

I actually think playstation is great and I would totally get one if I didnt already have xbox. Someday I'll definitely have both. But Oh well life goes on haha we all have our own way of seeing value and preference.

[MrFisher21]

You really went out of your way to name actual big games. And they all did get updates. Lmao. And bloodborne is helped by boost mode. I can confirm that.

[Kavorklestein]

I'm oh So glad I can count on you to confirm that.

[ocelot07]

Do have to agree about Sony not giving a Pro patch to some of their own first party titles. Mostly Uncharted Collection, Until Dawn, Driveclub and Bloodborne is the real kicker considering DS3 got a pro patch and greatly benefited from it in my opinion.

[Elda]

I'm a Pro owner & I agree knowing most of those games are owned by Sony. Especially Bloodborne & Driveclub.

[letsa_go]

I don't agree with your first statement because the Xbox One X is only "slightly better" than the PS4 Pro. (Am I doing it right?)

However I do agree that Sony should update all those games. All the games your mention are First Party titles (minus bloodborne) so there is no reason why they can't enable higher graphics settings. I definitely think driveclub would benefit, even though the developer is no longer around. There has to be someone at Sony that can patch it.

[Ju]

Of course. The Janitor. Anybody can do it

[letsa_go]

@Ju You aren't wrong. Theoretically, a janitor can move a few sliders in the video settings. More than likely though it would be a config file that you manually edit the entries.

and haha no thumbs up? Do you sony fanboys not want these games patched or something? I am confused. I have a ps4 pro and own the majority of these games, and would love to play them at higher than 1080p. Or play Driveclub at 60fps. Why would you not want that too?

Or did I upset the xbox fanboys for saying "DA BEAST" is only slightly better than ps4 pro? Just using your favorite term from the first 4 years of this generation, and your explanation of the 40% more GPU horsepower on the base PS4.

[Razzer]

How about Forza 5/6, MCC, Ryse, Sunset Overdrive, Gears of War Ultimate. Did they get 1X support?

[Rude-ro]

Pssssst... because they spend time and money making new games while the old games still are impressive. That is what happens when you deal with a game developing company.
Unlike Xbox that never even hit this gen, now, their old library of sub hd games will be this gen if you buy their new hardware.
Is it really that hard to understand?

[Razzer]

It is a valid point. Sony has been moving forward. The game library is the proof.

[DarXyde]

I wouldn't consider remasters "big games", though The Last of Us Remastered did receive an upgrade.

I think you're assuming these games will not be receiving an upgrade eventually. It also depends on how busy the studios are with current projects (Evolution withstanding).

[Hardiman]

While it's a treat to get Pro patches for older games I'll tell ya what's even better......getting NEW games that have pro patches such as GT Sport, God of War, Days Gone, Spider Man, Detroit Become Human and so on. Not to mention third party titls and I see you guys always downplaying checkerboard rendering but the X will be utilizing CBR for most AAA third party titles and only some indie and the few Microsoft exclusives that look cartoony such as Sea of Theives will be native 4K.

[MegamanXXX]

Why do you have over 80 degrees then LMAO What's also hilarious Bigpappy post this article

[blackblades]

Why, they're old and been played by most. It'll be a waste it's better just to move on.

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

I see your point! but then you should make the case against sony and not the ps4 pro!

[Gwiz]

These games that are coming out now are build with HDR in mind,some of these games listed don't even make sense as they were PS3 titles.(remember how 3D was basically the same thing with the PS3?)

[endi123]

Its sony so its ok

[rainslacker]

I'm not impressed with the X because it's not X'ey enough. Too little X. Plus, X is a variable of unknown quantification for function analysis and processing, and is a lame marketing moniker which is meant to attract the feeble minded. At least the Pro denotes that maybe it's a professional system....which it isn't, so yeah, I guess it's not pro enough. They say everything seems cooler with an X at the end. Since it's not MS 10th console, the X is pure marketing.

Anyhow, both are comments are stupid. What does not pro enough, or not X enough even mean? It's just a name.

[SpinalRemains138]

You're upset about old games? To each their own I suppose. I prefer new games myself.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Microsoft as usual 😁

[freshslicepizza]

Oh, so you still think the Xbox One X was a reaction to the PS4 Pro?

[RegorL]

Yes, it is almost certainly so.
What do you think?

Microsofts whole E3 announcement 2016 was a panic reaction to PS4 Pro. But they had nothing to really show
- the motherboard was CGI rendered

But they had certainly worked on it since the first rumours of PS4 Pro earlier that year (possibly even late 2015)

[blackblades]

Pretty much, pro is a midgen nothing to big because it's just midgen. X on the other hand ms went all out for a midgen why, sounds desperate.

[XtaZ]

We all know the Pro was a reaction to the Scorpio. The Scorpio rumors started before the Pro and the proof is all over the internet, and let's not forget all the N4G articles about the upgraded Xbox rumor where PS fanboys rage-circle-jerked and said they would never support a company if they made a mid-gen upgrade (Funny how fast opinion changed the second the Pro rumor appeared, lol) Sony feeling they had to create the Pro when they had both the sales and power advantage made zero sense unless they felt threatened.

[MasterCornholio]

@XtaZ

"We all know the Pro was a reaction to the Scorpio. The Scorpio rumors started before the Pro and the proof is all over the internet, "

You really can't develop and release a new console in a span of a few months so they can't be true.

"PS fanboys rage-circle-jerked and said they would never support a company if they made a mid-gen upgrade"

Didn't people say that the Pro is selling horribly? So how is it being supported by consumers if the base models outsells it by a vast amount?

What's with your obsession with Sony fanboys?

[hamburgerhill]

"You really can't develop and release a new console in a span of a few months so they can't be true."

No, but the pro is such a minor upgrade that I wouldn't be surprised if it were one of the actual release PS4 designs. Sony watched the MS announcement and went with the cheaper more affordable PS4.

"Didn't people say that the Pro is selling horribly? So how is it being supported by consumers if the base models outsells it by a vast amount? "

Now that's some serious spin.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Yes dude it's called opportunity when it striked and pro was the calayst.

[Pantz]

I love my PS4 Pro, but that just means I'm going to love my Xbox One X even more. It's nice to see Microsoft has embraced HDR more than Sony has. I will be enjoying both wonderfully powerful consoles on my beautiful 4K HDR HDTV in November!

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

*4K HDR UHD TV.

Maybe get a PC, you don't seem short of cash.

Nothing on the market looks as good as HZD, and that's just the start for PS4PRO

[Pantz]

Thanks, you're right about UHD. Ultra is the name for this. I am saving up for a new PC, but I know it will cost at least $2000 to beat the Xbox One X's graphics. So it will take a little while. And that doesn't even include the cost of an Ultrawide HDR monitor with G-Sync. Anyway PC's are more for all the old-style indy games it seems.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

Fair call mate, I usually build a PC every 3 - 4 Yrs - depending on what card is getting released. It does get expensive.

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

Or let him do what he wants?

[Condemnedman]

how many games do hdr on the PC? pro is just a minor resolution bump and the X will be pissing past that

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

Condemnedman - PlayStation 4/Pro are better supported, throw in PC and you have a great set up.

Xbox/MS are pale imitations of how good gaming companies should operate.

The X is a great bit of kit, it just won't be supported by it's maker.

I'll happily eat crow if MS can prove me wrong over the next few years.

[Atticus_finch]

"It's nice to see Microsoft has embraced HDR more than Sony has"
What?! Lol. Every PS4 is HDR ready since 2013, all 65 million of them.

[Pantz]

It's been out nearly a year and not all that many games that came out during that time opted to use HDR. Microsoft's already come out with quite a few HDR games for the Xbox One S even before the Xbox One X came out. Just saying I wish they would have pushed developers to use it more.

[Atticus_finch]

There is a ton of games with Infamous, Rachet and clank, uncharted, GTs and HZD being the best looking. And you can bet every Sony 1st party game will support it.

[Liqu1d]

Stop lying Pantz.

[nitus10]

Seems a strange thing to say when all PS4's support HDR while only the XB1s and the XB1x support it. The original XB1 does not.

Well if you have the money you could get a beautiful 8K TV (they are available now) and then you really could have bragging rights. You would then definitely be PS5 ready when it comes out.

[SierraGuy]

@pantz...are you lost? My vanilla PS4 enabled HDR via software update long time ago. Talk about embracing it. "Microsoft has embraced HDR more than Sony has."...again wtf? Your Pro there has native HDR support unlike X1X middleware HDR. Maybe do some searching next time.

[TheColbertinator]

Nothing inpressive about it to me.

Signed, an intellectual

[jznrpg]

Right

[Kavorklestein]

That dude's cock is huge! Said your mom, sister, cousin, ex girlfriend etc..

"Not impressed."
Signed,
The guy on the internet.

[Tazzy]

Well I haven't been impressed by anything Xbox has shown for the Xbox One X the most powerful gaming console that has no games coming just updates to Xbox One games. For being called the most powerful console Halo 5 is having limitations and thats an Xbox One game am I supposed to be amazed by Cupheads doing 4k 60fps or Super Lucky Tales doing it because I'm not.

Signed Mr. Facts

[Kavorklestein]

Cool beans bro..that's all good man.
Everyone's got opinions lol
Everyone's got different tastes too.
It matters less to some and it feels vital to others, and every other way under the sun too lol

[DarkZane]

They went cheaper and it paid off in the end, because they're winning. Pretty sure the Pro will outsell the Xbox One X.

20% of PS4 bought are Pro. The Xbox One X will probably less than 20% of Xbox One bought and even if it was 20%. 20% of less is still less.

Sony also placed themselves well to launch their next gen console first. The Xbox One X with 6 TFLOPS isn't gonna be impressive when the PS5 launch in 2-3 years with 12 TFLOPS, 16GB of ram (who knows what cpu it will have) for $399.99 and will actually have true native 4K.

Microsoft will either launch their next gen console a year later, but more powerful, but Sony will already have won next gen by then, or they could launch at the same time as the PS5, put a bigger nail on their coffin and still lose because they will have rushed it and alienated a lot of people who bought a Xbox One X.

[81BX]

Pro tip: never use probably when trying to make a legit point

[Rude-ro]

Probably is a hypothis based off of historical fact...
Microsoft has nothing else to compete with. Per history, it is most likely (Aka probably) that's microsoft will ditch their newsest console in order to compete.
Per history, only third party game deals gave them their only fighting chance, so now, you have a way over powered console that will give them the chance to snag a third party game and hide behind "only possible" on the x...
it is basic math when you study the history thus giving the word "probably" a stronger stance

[itsmebryan]

Lol

[itsmebryan]

$399? Where did you get that from? How soon they forget the PS3? $499 and $599. Remember the Sony was asked about the high price they said people could work extra hours to pay the high price. $499 and $599 in 2006. And you are complaining about the same or lower price 11 years later. Please explain.

[OB1Biker]

Actually I don't agree. I know we all talk more or less out of our @ss but I think the Base ps4 will be popular longer than Base xb1

[timlot]

Good guy Penello.

[DeadSilence]

Two amazing consoles, two great brands, competition is amazing.

[jznrpg]

Its fairly obvious there were rumors of the Pro releasing and MS said gey we got a new box coming but in 17 months time to produce the thing. MS is always reacting

[XtaZ]

The Scorpio rumors came before the Pro rumors. You are wrong.

[mark_parch]

Microsoft started talking about the xbox one x In 2014 as conformed by phil spencer I imagine sony also started talking about the pro around the same time. I guarantee both companies are now deep into talks about the next consoles. phil said they wanted a more 4k capable machine and it just wasn't affordable in 2016

[nRicosS]

I impressed and surprised that Penello impressed and surprised by PS4 Pro /jk :D

[Nightcyberspud]

I’m looking forward to the Xbox one X. Don’t get me wrong Sony has a great system but the PS4 pro seems like a half measure just to check the box that they have a 4k system.

[G3ng4r]

You might think that if you think bad. It not fair to compair because xb1x is gen 9 and ps4pro is not but at least xb1x wont ever have games lol plus ps4 is getting cheaper bargan console nd ps4pro can be more powerful with less specs like seen in hzd so xb1x will never look better then that dont need 12 gb ram for games.

[Nightcyberspud]

I have no idea what you just said there. In English please.

[ILostMyMind]

Good luck for you.

[leoms]

@Bigpappy
''but cant even get their w exclusives updated?'' Bruh, at least they have exclusives and honestly nothing on the X will match the visual quality of most of these exclusives so... gtfo?

[OB1Biker]

-when they announced the Pro, I was as surprised as anybody else'
What a bs. Nobody was surprised. It was leaked long before.
Also his so called 'admiration' is
'I give them a lot of credit for what they did there,” he says. “But for me...' .
Like a wise man said, everything before but is bs :)

[Hedstrom]

I didnt know the Xbox one x had its own Albert Penello :D

[Solo_88]

I'm just here for the comments.

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

Wait what?!!!! that's is surprising to hear!