Insider: Death Stranding Uses Sony Internal Engine, PSX 2016 Will Be Better Than Last Two Shows

According to rumors, PlayStation Experience 2016 will be a better event for game reveals than the past two years. Death Stranding's engine will be announced there and it will be one of the engines developed internally by Sony.

[ccgr]

Looks impressive so far

[Imp0ssibl3]

True, which is why my guess was Unreal Engine 4 but apparently that's not it
Maybe the engine created by Sony Santa Monica for God of War?

[NewMonday]

betting on Horizon open world engine

[bouzebbal]

How can they manage topping every show ??? Oh...

[blitz0623]

Really hope FFVII R makes an appearance

[Obscure_Observer]

@NewMonday

Except there's not such thing as "Horizon open world engine". Horizon feat a modified KZ Shadowfall engine. Though beautiful, i don´t think the vivid and colorful KZ would fit the atmosphere of Death Stranding.

I know it´s a proprietary engine; but i think the fotorealistic RAD Engine 4.0 would be the AWESOME and the perfect fit for the "mood" and atmosphere of Kojima´s DS. It puzzles how early gen games like The Order and Ryse rise the bar early this gen and has yet to be beaten. ;)

[Nitrowolf2]

@obscure

Those colors are inserts of the developers, not the engine. The engine should be able to support any pallete of the color wheel and tone, its just GG made their game like that.

I dont think its the killzone engine though

[Ju]

Sony's only "own" engine is the PhyrEngine which comes with the PS SDK. It's probably based on that. It's free to use for PS developers and also runs on PCs.

OK - I have to take this back. So far Sony hasn't shared engines, but looks like Guerrilla became a engine provider...interesting.

[Notellin]

@Obscure Well looks like you were really wrong. Horizon is running on a brand new engine called Decima and that's what Kojima picked.

[never4get]

I think I did suggested Death Stranding use Gran Turismo Sport game engine right?

[UCForce]

That's a troll comment right there.

[Mroc13]

What exactly looks impressive? All I've seen was a trailer which was pretty strange to me. I've no idea what the game is about from that. I'm not trying to be an ass. Just want some info if you have any. Ive played all the Metal Gear games and love them and only own PS consoles just so you know

[Vengeance1138]

Using an engine developed by Sony pretty much solidifies the game's console exclusive status for all time. :)

[_-EDMIX-_]

I'm not too sure about that.

Unless Sony owns the IP, pretty sure he can port it to a different engine if he must. Until we hear who owns what, I don't know if its time to say such a thing.

[Fishy Fingers]

Yup. I imagine if they are using a Sony built engine that's primarily to reduce the development time more than cement the exclusivity (although also likely).

[italiangamer]

Sony owns the Death Stranding IP, look at 3:28

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

They own the IP and they are funding it, just like Helldivers and Everybody's Gone to the Rapture that they later on decided to release on PC.

[DMZ_P]

not sure porting an already developed game to a different engine would be wise financially.

[LP-Eleven]

Sony owns the IP, so console exclusivity is cemented.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@italiagamer- ?

That doesn't show anything saying Sony owns the IP.....

Sony trademarking something actually doesn't mean they legally own the IP. We've actually had this debate before with Bloodstained and I was the one that was wrong. Trademarking doesn't mean someone owns the IP.

"A trademark is a brand name. A trademark or service mark includes any word, name, symbol, device, or any combination, used or intended to be used to identify and distinguish the goods/services of one seller or provider from those of others, and to indicate the source of the goods/services"

ie Sony could own the name of Death Stranding or a logo identifying it. Many times someone owns a trademark if they are intending to provided marketing services or publishing duties (which often is marketing, distribution etc)

But owing this doesn't actually mean you own the very IP, that is something different and not to be confused with the Trademark.

Example. MS was publishing Mass Effect, they did not own the IP, but they did own the trademark.

EA bought the IP from Bioware, EA then bought the name ie "trademark" from MS at a later date. That was actually the only thing MS owned, they did not own the IP.

http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Now notice...this literally says nothing about MS, it was EA buying the IP from Bioware and Pandemic.....not MS.

So unless Sony comes out and states they own the trademark AND IP, its just the trademark for now. As to why it still has a PC version coming. Not to say Sony can't buy it later, only that I don't see any evidence that they've already bought the IP, only that they own the name.

Watch this video to see what a trademark actually is. An IP can be part of a trademark, but the IP is generally the whole thing, not merely part of it or just the name, image etc.

https://www.uspto.gov/trade...

http://www.trademarkia.com/...

(Look at the date filed. When we first heard this game announced, it was stated to have a PC version, Sony files for this on 7/18/2016) That only leads me to believe that they don't own the IP, but want to own publishing rights or the name and might be negotiating for the IP, like Everybody's Gone To The Rapture. Sony bought that IP before the game was done when they were only listed as the publishers at the time. They could be doing the same thing right now.

You can even publish a game, fund it and not own the IP or the trademark. Sony funded Heavy Rain, they do not own the IP nor the trademark, but to my understanding, they do own the IP to Beyond Two Souls and trademark for it.

http://www.trademarkia.com/...

[gamerswin24]

We all know with his relationship with Sony as of late and the way it was unveiled that's not happening. This will be a showboat, Sony exclusive like MGS4 was, like Bloodbourne is, etc...

[Inzo]

Sony is in partnership with Kojima and Kojima productions itself not just for this game but for future projects as well and the fact that this game will use an internal engine is a clear indicator for exclusivity, at the most it goes to PC. Kojima makes no secret about his love for Playstation.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@inzo- I know, my only point that I'm making that no one seems to want to confirm with any real evidence is that we have no real confirmation of Sony owning the intellectual property.

Owning the trademark to something is actually not the same as owning the actual intellectual property Microsoft owned the publishing name to Mass Effect and electronic Arts bought the intellectual property from Bioware which means Microsoft owned the publishing name to Mass Effect ie trademark but Bioware retained the intellectual property, thus electronic Arts was buying the property from Bioware not MS.

You guys actually know me as a huge PlayStation fan and an enormous Kojima fan I even gave Metal Gear Solid 5 last year my personal game of the year, but I'm also a realist I might want this to be true but I don't see any evidence like any real legal proof of Sony actually owning the intellectual property.

Could be true, but until anything official pops up, just an assumption (as to why no one even has a link to prove it).

Don't get me wrong I would be happy if it was true but I just don't like riding on guesses and assumptions. I won't try to exaggerate or fabricate anything just because I like Playstation and Kojima.

Give me a link to Sony saying they own the IP and let's celebrate.... until then.... assumption.

[LP-Eleven]

Um, it's a Sony IP, buddy. There's no need for us to argue semantics. Being created on a 1st Party Sony Engine on top of that. I get what you're saying and know all about IP/Copyright/Trademark/Trade Secrets.

Trademark = Sony's, Engine = Sony's. Death Stranding is Sony's.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@LP- Link?

You're still going on in assumption.

Sorry but trademark doesn't actually mean you own the entire intellectual property it simply means you own the name, logo etc.

Unless Tony said so or you have any real legal proof that they own the intellectual property and not simply just the name or trademark this is just an assumption.

Sorry but you can't forcefully dictates something as true just because you want it to be especially with no real evidence.

Trust me, I would want this to be true more than anyone but unless I have sufficient evidence I'm not going to just blindly assume.

Mind you that isn't even to say that they actually don't own the intellectual property it's merely saying we have zero evidence illegally to show that they actually do, you're just assuming.

I hope so, but u got a link?

[Alexious]

Yes, it will stay a console exclusive but they already said it will be released on PC too. Which is fine for me.

[Germany7]

Thats not confirmed yet so you and your site need to take it easy with the port begging.

[Alexious]

@ratchet8: Yes it is, in the very first press release. http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Of course, they didn't say when. Could be six months later, could be a year.

[freshslicepizza]

@Ratchet8,
"Thats not confirmed yet so you and your site need to take it easy with the port begging."

what exactly is your problem? you seem upset if the game is available elsewhere like you have shares in playstation or something.

In a Q&A also issued by the company, as published by Medium, it was revealed that Sony is not investing in Kojima Productions, and the unnamed game in question "is planned to become available on PC" after its PS4 release.

[Ding]

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[starchild]

@Ratchet8

What a douchey comment. And it's not the first time you've made a comment like that. Being happy that other gamers don't get to play something comes from a place of pure fanboyism, which says a lot about your motivations.

[curtis92]

Also full on PS4 Pro support

[smashman98]

The game is confirmed exclusive that's not even an issue

[Officialxandr]

Sony/PlayStation is publishing Death Stranding, so it should be an exclusive.

[KaiPow]

I'm hoping we can actually see some gameplay this time.

[S2Killinit]

I so curious to see it in action.

[Pancit_Canton]

It looks good. I'm sure this game would be made ground up from the PSPRO architecture. This, God of War, Spiderman and next Naughty Dog title would show the true capabilities of the PSPRO.

[Alexious]

I don't have a PS4 right now but I'll have to get the Pro just for those titles. I would add Horizon: Zero Dawn and Detroit: Become Human to that list, by the way.

[WeAreLegion]

Don't forget Days Gone. Looks phenomenal on the Pro.

[UCForce]

Damn !

[TheGamez100]

Nice to hear, cant wait! The previous two were pretty good so hope this is true. Really hoping for new death stranding and spiderman gameplay as well as maybe a MvC4 announcement?

[kraenk12]

Spidey won't be there sadly Insomniac just tweeted.

[Teflon02]

Hope they release FFIX on ps4 same time. I've been patiently waiting to platinum that one

[ShadowKnight]

Not really surprised. Are they going to use the same engine when they port it to PC? 🤔

[Kaneki-Ken]

That depend on PlayStation. They may have to get a cut from game using their engine on a PC version

[RememberThe357]

I'm assuming Sony is publishing the PC version as well.

[PhoenixUp]

The first PSX had EA give out free games for the three PlayStation platforms. I'd like to see another publisher top that

[Majin-vegeta]

That's cuz.It was to commemorate PS 20 years....

[PhoenixUp]

The PSX conference itself was made to commemorate the brand's 20th anniversary but they continued have the event in the following years. No reason for the free games to stop

[TheEvilResident1997]

I can't wait to see some more Resident Evil 7 Biohazard that game will be so successful and sell tons.

[jznrpg]

Makes sense to use Sony's engine, God of War looks sick , so does Horizon Zero Dawn, not sure if they
run on same engine though

[DarkSniper]

Death Stranding is in a lot of ways the dream game that Hideo Kojima has always wanted to make. Free from the shackles of Konami and the Metal Gear Series, Kojima is now able to finally bless us PlayStationists with the creative vision with the unlimited power of the PlayStation®4. Those who have played Kojima's non-MGS games(Snatcher, Boktai, Policenauts) know that anything he has made has been pure gold.

With that said, Dark Sniper is looking forward to seeing this pure gold on stage for the first time at PlayStation Experience 2016. After this weekend, Dark Sniper expects to see many PlayStation®4 consoles sold and more Xbox Ones in the Pawn Shops.

$niper

[endi123]

Lol

[Sevir]

It's console exclusive to PS4 since Sony is publishing it. It will however come to PC.

[trooper_]

Wow, Sony is not messing around.

[Germany7]

If Sony is publishing and its not exclusive, it will be another stupid deal.

[Kaneki-Ken]

It must be exclusive since PlayStation is funding it, letting use their engine and letting Kojima take all the risk he wants.

[Germany7]

I really hope so or it will be a waste.

[starchild]

It's console exclusive to PS4, so it's not a stupid deal.

[cartoonx1]

lol why will it be waste? haven't seen such dumb fanboys tbh, n4g for ya.

[smashman98]

That's good last year really was kinda garbage except for final fantasy and no no kuni

[S2Killinit]

Soo curious about this Death Stranding. Love the name by the way.

Man! Ace Combat, possible game by Sucker Punch, Sony Interactive. I love how Sony has all these talented studios and how soon as one releases a game another is just around the corner to show case what they have been working on. Really great job by them, truly.

[TheOptimist]

Just hope he doesn't make another MGSV -_-

[mezati99]

i consider MGSV one of the greatest games of our time

the gameplay is just so SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good

if it's anything like MGSV count me the f*** in

[TheOptimist]

I personally think that it was a mediocre game, because open world was meh, combat was fluid, but not at all challenging, the story I won't even delve into it and the motherbase was useless. Nah, don't want another MGSV sincerely

[Kaneki-Ken]

The story was the weakest of the MGS series but sadly anothe MGS won't happen, Konami cut their ties with Kojima.

[Sparta07]

What!? Lol
Did you play any MGS games before? MGSV was the weakest of the series.

[SynestheticRoar]

Give me the greatness.

[Relientk77]

Really excited to see PSX. I hope Deep Down makes an appearance

[plmkoh]

So I am guessing it is using Phyre Engine?

[DarXyde]

As I always say, temper your expectations. It's not meant to compete with E3.

It may be a great show and it may be pretty mediocre. Just don't set yourselves up for disappointment.

[Sm3000]

Has Sony ever developed a game engine before? That area isn't my strong suit

[pyroxxx]

It is their MLB the SHOW engine I think,.. We will see how it works with Death stranding,.. but from what I've seen,.. if DS looks anything like what was shown it is going to be really impressive,.. Especially because Kojima team knows how to make a proper lightning work well.

[lastking95]

What's the game about? Have devs gone into any detail? I was guessing it was a horror survival.

[Shinox]

IS this game actually coming to PC or it was just a rumor ?

[starchild]

It is was announced to be coming to PS4 and PC. http://www.gamespot.com/art...

[cartoonx1]

it was announce to be PC + PS4 but maybe they had some deal with sony now? so use internal engine and cancel pc? was it always being using sony's engine? thought it was unreal

[Skankinruby]

I still have no clue what this game is about

[filchron]

This game has the DUMBEST title ever. The guy is obviously stranded, and he's obviously on the verge of dying from said strandedness, that much was already revealed in the trailer so can we try a little harder and not be such Japanese engrish edge lords Kojima? Please dont call the next Metal gear "Shoot Hiding" or the next Z.O.E. "Robots Fighting". Game looks good but that name is just bafflingly simple and dumb sounding.

[iceman06]

Possibly. Or, it's a bit deeper than it appears. The term "stranding" is used by marine biologists to describe the behavior of dolphins and whales beaching themselves for unknown reasons. From that brief glimpse, it seems like Kojima might be at least referencing this type of stranding. He's known for his cryptic nature. Then again, perhaps it's that lost in translation thing that sometimes happens between Japanese and the West...where something that is a bit more profound becomes more rudimentary when translated into English. Either way, I just want to see what the game is all about.
Edit: Kojima might be the most cryptic dev of all time. There are crap tons of cryptic references in each and every game he makes. Even the new mascot is cryptic. In the end, mass "strandings" aren't completely understood. They've been blamed on everything from magnetic field shifts to geothermal and tidal shifts. Survival and self preservation is not uniquely human. In fact, some would argue that it is one of he most primal, animalistic urges that we have. I'm not saying I'm right about this "stranding" theory. But, I wouldn't rule it out because it would be too cryptic. Cryptic is kinda the Kojima way.

[filchron]

Really cant be that cryptic. Humans are a race that values survival at all costs, they dont usually "beach" themselves on purpose and if they do they just end it and commit suicide.

[Hardiman]

God I'm so ready!

[Igihara]

Hopefully the RAD Engine

[pyroxxx]

I thought this was MLB The Show engine,.. Really hope they kept it ,.. since it looks amazing

[King_Lothric]

The game is looking pretty good. Can't wait to play a new Hideout Kojima game without evil Konami. Also, Death Stranding Uses Sony Internal Engine = no Xbox version.