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Geoff Keighley presents AMDs new Zen CPU

​Quote:​ Watch New Horizon, hosted by Geoff Keighley, for an exclusive advance preview of our new “Zen” CPU ahead of its 2017 Q1 launch.
See eSports & Evil Geniuses legend PPD put “Zen” through its paces. There’ll be appearances from special guests and giveaways.
This is the first time the public will be able to try it themselves and see what it’s capable of. If you’re serious about gaming, this is an event you do not want to miss.

MasterCornholio2741d ago

Hmm I wonder what will be there?

;)

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blackout2739d ago

" HELLLLL, LLLLLLL, LLLLLL YEA"

MasterCornholio2739d ago

Maybe an announcement that Scorpio will use the chip but I'm expecting Microsoft to fully reveal the system at their own event.

deadfrag2741d ago

Hum seen Zen showing already tells me that Microsoft can actually end up releasing the Scorpio sooner than the expected target...mark my words.

MasterCornholio2741d ago

Um Microsoft always said holidays of 2017 for the device so it wouldn't be sooner than expected.

PFFT2740d ago

Actually there was an article a few ago that said that progress on the Scorpio was going extremely well and there is a strong chance that the Scorpio could release before the Holidays next year.

UltraNova2740d ago (Edited 2740d ago )

No way. You people need to read more about the PC tech industry and how it connects with console makers.

Its not about when the CPU or GPU is done and released in consumers/business hands, its about node optimization and volume production that in turn control price and availability, plus console spesifc customizations( e.g.CPU+GPU SoC ) have to get in line as well (console connection part 1).

Additionally, if MS wants to get the Zen CPU as cheap as possible (console connection part 2) they will have to wait to the last minute of their promised late 2017 released date.

On that note, expect major Scorpio shortages for the very reasons I have described above.

Edit:

I m fairly certain MS will opt for a full and slightly OCed Polaris RX-480 and a last gen 8-12 core AMD CPU on 14nm ( FX™ 8370, wishfull thinking?) mainly for pricing reasons.

On the other hand I cannot exclude the possibility of them making a deal for the Zen CPU as well but my logic says price and node production ( at least for the 1st year) will be quite hard to negotiate with such new tech (that AMD has so much riding on it).

That said I really hope MS knocks the design out of the park so much so that Sony has to really put a lot of thought(and tech) when they design the PS5.

Its about time we got a substantial performance leap on consoles.

freshslicepizza2740d ago

"Its about time we got a substantial performance leap on consoles."

the question is how much are people willing to pay for it?

Ju2740d ago (Edited 2740d ago )

We'll see. Expectations are flying high. I really wonder if we can see the difference. I mean, it must be a power above (e.g.) the Pro to really make a dent, and that all for $350 (+100 at max) to be competitive. I wonder how developers will take advantage of all that if they have to release to multiple targets now, so much that the high end blows you away. I am looking at Pro enhanced visuals vs. for example plain resolution advances and I can't see it. I rather take the resolution because it makes everything looks so much smoother. 6Tf - even with a new CPU won't make a huge dent on top of that.
It's nice MS is pushing the envelope, and all they can do right now is raising desire (which looks like is working) but at the end of the day, price is what will matter. MS has an advantage because they have the much more sophisticated graphics core (OS) with their DirectX layer, but someone will also have to write that code. But they got a full year to do that. For backward compatibility reasons, they have a lot experience with that on the PC. So, most likely this will also be a huge advantage for MS.

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PFFT2740d ago

Here is hoping! Good thing is that ill have the Switch and XB1S to keep me busy till it launches.

lastking952740d ago

Phil did say its development pace was ahead of schedule!

christocolus2741d ago (Edited 2741d ago )

This is same tech rumored to be used in Scorpio. Hmmmm.

Grap2740d ago

If zen cpu rumoers are true then scorpio is going to be a beast

Grap2740d ago

Actually the rumor said it will be very cheap for very powerful cpu. Microsoft weren't liyin when they said "true 4k" console

Ju2740d ago

What's "true 4K" other than a marketing buzz word ? (serious question) Pixels alone won't do it.

MasterCornholio2739d ago

@Ju

What he's saying is that Scorpio will run every single game at a native 4K. According to him the moment the console renders a title below that resolution makes it a fake 4K system.

I personally don't believe that but some people do.

obidanshinobi2740d ago

Was he drinking Mountain Dew and eating Doritos whilst he was doing it ?

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HexGaming Launches Kickstarter Campaign for Hex Phantom

Custom Controller Company HexGaming launched a Kickstarter campaign for their latest pro controller, Hex Phantom. - IS

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Trying to push players over from PC to console is a terrible idea, PlayStation

As PlayStation announces its new strategy to encourage PC users to choose PS5 it is a bitter-sweet moment for PC gamers.

Christopher1d 6h ago

I mean, it's a business based on hardware market. Do we expect them to not even try? It's not like Nintendo doesn't do the same by not putting any games on PC and Microsoft until recently did the same. I don't care what they attempt, as long as they don't abuse the community or lie about their goals/requirements.

Will it work? Not likely. Should we care? No. Let them waste their time, it doesn't affect anything.

RaidenBlack1d 6h ago

let them try ... at the end of the day, we get few extra PC games ... yay ... and also promotes game preservation via PC ... so double yay.

LordoftheCritics13h ago

If only Playstation games provided the ease of pc gaming features.

Primary being very few PS games support m/kb.

Christopher6h ago

If only PC games supported controllers more. Main reason I play primarily on console. So many games have shit support on PC. Playing Dark Envoy now, and it's quite frustrating since I have to switch to keyboard during cut scenes just to make sure advancing conversation doesn't also auto-select a decision. Let alone it's quite rough to select between characters and inventory screens are bad bad bad.

Anywho, similar complaints for both I find. But, I 100% agree that both PC and consoles should support both as best as possible.

crazyCoconuts1h ago

PS may push more kb support in the future to get more PC converts, we'll see.

Flewid63820m ago

As someone with a high end PC, I feel like the ease is on PS5. Too many PC games are a troubleshooting nightmare, which few people have the time for when all you want to do is pop in a game & play it.

LordoftheCritics5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

I don't think you understand what I mean by the lack of m/kb support on PS.

Over a thousand titles have PS controller support on PC.

Not even 30 titles have m/kb support on PS5.

Once you are done with the single player title, you'll go back to playing your daily shooter/looter/mmo etc which the pc gamer has mastered with their mouse and keyboard.
Why would any pc gamer make the switch?

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Fishy Fingers1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

I wish them the best of luck.

But PC players are often a patient bunch, many will even wait for Epic launcher exclusivity to end until a game comes to Steam.

If they didnt buy the console when its games were exclusive, why would they do it now theyre not?

MrNinosan15h ago

Way more do than you probably think.

ravens5215h ago

All you need is that one game that'll make a few switch at a time. Like a game a PC player REALLY wants.

porkChop2h ago

It just doesn't work that way though. Plenty of the best games ever made were never available on PC. That didn't make PC gamers buy consoles to play them. This kind of strategy has never worked in the past and it won't work now. It's fine for PS to hold their games back and release on PC later, but to think that will boost console sales is wishful thinking. All this will accomplish is some double dipping, which is obviously good for business.

JackBNimble2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

People aren't going to switch from pc to ps5, why would anyone do that for a game?
Most sony exclusives aren't all that to begin with, and pc has the option to upgrade what they want when they want it. Having access to some ps5 games, gamepass and steam.

Thinking this would happen is naive

outsider162411h ago

I mean if there's 10 million pc gamers out there...getting atleast just 1 million from there is probably a good thing..right?

romulus239h ago

PC players are not a monolith, I don't know why people keep thinking they speak for the entirety of all PC gamers like they all know each other personally. You think out of the millions of PC gamers not one single person will be impatient?Well Sony is willing to bet there will be. Why would they do it now? People's feelings change and new PC gamers come along all the time that may also feel different about waiting, that's why.

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-Foxtrot1d 5h ago

PC gamers are just too patient and loyal to their gaming set ups, something they've spent a lot of money on to perfect. They have backlogs of games which many never get round to finishing or get round to at all and will always have other multiplatform releases to keep them going.

Over the many years Sony has published so many awesome titles such as The Last of Us, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, Infamous, Killzone, LittleBigPlanet, Dreams, Puppeteer, Resistance, Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo, Motor Storm, God of War, Horizon, Ratchet and Clank, Spiderman, Ghost of Tsushima, Bloodborne

If none of those games BEFORE all these PC ports convinced a hardcore PC gamer to get a PS5 console then why on Earth would porting them them to PC now make any difference? All PC gamers now know 100% is that they just have to be patient, which they are good at anyway to get a PS5 game 2 years later.

I get GaaS games or multiplayer focused titles but if people really want to play these games they'd have gotten a PS console years ago.

Crows9012h ago

Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer.

Not sure why people are obsessing over his comment...it seems pretty simple to me.

He will do all he can to entice gamers to move to his ecosystem. As you say....exclusives existing hasn't moved many gamers over. But if they get to try them and love the games then they might change their mind about waiting 2 years.

We're in an echo chamber on this site...I've Personally seen people with Xbox and PC setups but no PlayStation. I've also seen people with small PC setups but no console. Not every pc gamer invests thousands and many may decide to put one in the living room.

They're not looking to convince all of players to buy a PlayStation...just a few...and really it is just a PR statement after all...they have to give a reason why single player won't release day 1....not to mention they also have to ensure current PlayStation gamers don't jump ship to PC. It goes both ways and they're ignoring the big L by putting any of their games off their platform.

anast11h ago

"Not sure they're aiming to convince the hardcore PC gamer."

Right here

Kakashi Hatake11h ago

PC gamers think tomorrow is promised. Sorry, don't have time for that.

Michiel198910h ago

it's not just about loyalty or sunk cost, pc is an open platform while consoles are closed platforms. If you for example want to mod, you will play on pc, no question about it. Also if you like indie games, steam is a fucking goldmine for that. I've been playing a lot of indie games over the last years and there just seems to be an endless amount of them on steam. Also not having games locked to a certain fps is a prettty big deal for me and I assume a lot of other pc players.

Walalon9h ago

And don't forget steam sales, you can get a ton of games on an awesome price.

badz14935m ago

@Walalon

Sony has been doing sales constantly on the PS Store nowadays.

romulus239h ago

And how do you know out of the millions of PC gamers that not one single person ever went ahead and bought a PlayStation console for one or more of those games? People keep speaking for the entirety of millions of PC gamers like they know them all personally. Here's one example for you, I'm currently typing on a recently purchased PC that cost me over twenty five hundred dollars and is more than capable of running any game including Sony exclusives that come to PC and yet I still bought a PS5 so apparently I'm not patient or loyal enough to my set up, hope it's not mad at me for not being loyal.

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helicoptergirl1d 4h ago

Who cares? Then just stay on PC and play the waiting game. No big deal. Sony wins in the end anyway.

Number1TailzFan1d 4h ago

I mean if there's any single player Sony games that I actually want that aren't on PC then I would buy said console to play them on. But the ones that I like that aren't on PC are few and far between anyway so no loss for me.

If I game, it's usually multiplayer titles, otherwise I like playing around with some other software.

Amplitude6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Astro Bot is the game that just did it for me. I'm gonna have to grab a PS5 again for that.

I did this for Ratchet Rift Apart too but ended up selling the PS5 after getting my plat. Rebought it on PC and other than GoW Ragnarok and Horizon FW (which eventually I could get anyway), I haven't had a reason to downgrade my graphics, controller features, ease of recording, and increase my game costs and monthly subscriptions throughout this entire generation.

I play on a TV with a controller but this has been the absolute worst console gen for both consoles. Never in my life thought I'd be a PC gamer but I've been spoiled by the cheap costs, cross-platform controllers and mostly the unbelievably useful Steam controller config.

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Evercade Alpha Reveals Affordable Mini-Arcade

This looks fun and affordable for fans of Retro Cabinet games.
Introducing Evercade Alpha, the first Evercade-compatible arcade machine. This bartop-sized arcade gives you everything you want in a home arcade machine with one big feature - full compatibility with the Evercade cartridge ecosystem.

darthv722d ago

I like the Mega Man one more as it has a better variety of games. Strider, Carrier Airwing, Final fight... The other is all SF. Plus i like that i can pop in any of my evercade carts to play as well.

Garethvk2d ago

As long as it is durable; it's a deal.