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Embracer Group enters into an agreement to acquire Eidos, Crystal Dynamics, and Square Enix Montréal

Embracer Group AB (”Embracer”) has entered into an agreement to acquire the development studios Crystal Dynamics, Eidos-Montréal, Square Enix Montréal, and a catalogue of IPs including Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, Thief, Legacy of Kain and more than 50 back-catalogue games from SQUARE ENIX HOLDINGS CO., LTD. (“Square Enix Holdings”). In total, the acquisition includes ~1,100 employees across three studios and eight global locations.

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Orchard761d ago

300m for all of those studios and IPs seems like a complete steal. Crazy.

RaidenBlack761d ago

Absolutely!
Square Enix says the transaction (which was 'only' $300 million) "enables the launch of new businesses by
moving forward with investments in fields including blockchain, AI, and the cloud."

SE still has Just Cause, Outriders, Life is Strange

blackblades761d ago

And there jrpgs, feel like its a good thing cause they weren't doing anything with them.

blackblades761d ago

So ya disagree and rather have square keep the ips and definitely not see another thief, deus ex etc again

phoenixwing761d ago

@blackblades
it's probably some diehard SE FF fans who don't want to admit that square is eventually going to put blockchain in it for money's sake. The writing is literally on the monitor wall now. SE admits they want to do blockchain asap and is willing to let go of ip's that are fan favorites for a quicker cash in rather than working on quality. Or at least that's how i see it.

darthv72761d ago

Interesting.... so this was all SE western stuff and none of the JP stuff. Is CD still assisting on Perfect Dark after this?

darthv72761d ago

So I just read that CD will still be working on PD.

ABizzel1760d ago

I said Square was going to do this months ago, they just have no real gains in Western development and they don't know what to do with those studios.

However, this was a dumb decision IMO to sell at this cost and at this time when someone like MS would have probably spent closer to $1 billion on them.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Sony offers Square a Bungie-like deal at this point.

ABizzel1760d ago (Edited 760d ago )

MS
If anything this is probably confirmation that Microsoft cannot buy any other publisher or developer for the rest of the year until they get confirmation that the Activision-Blizzard deal goes through, because otherwise, they would have easily been able to buy these studios for $1 billion and had all their content in GamePass by their June Showcase. Crystal is basically a hired developer for them right now on Perfect Dark, and Edios and Sqaure Montreal were both talented / good picks as well.

Embracer Group
This is great for Embracer Group, and goes to show that once again an acquisition is not just about who spends the most money, as there were plenty of companies that could have easily outbid them, yet Embracer was still the one to acquire these studios. They're becoming a gaming and entertainment powerhouse with Dark Horse comics, Gearbox (Borderlands / Brothers in Arms), Deep Silver (Saint's Row / Dead Island / Time Splitters now), Warhorse (Kingdom Come), Saber Interactive (Crysis Remastered / Co-developed a lot of Halo modes/content / Timeshift / and a bunch of mid but at least decent mid), THQ Nordic (Darksiders), and now Tomb Raider, Deus Ex, Legacy of Kain, and more.

SE
I also think this was best for SE as well, since they had awful projections on the success they expected from their western teams, and didn't have any idea what to do with them after throwing them to into Marvel devs and failing. This will allow them to focus significantly more on JRPGs the genre they're good at (however, they've been slipping here).

SE / Sony Acquisition
This also brings up another thing what does Square's Market Value look like now as it was just below $5 billion prior? And is Square the publisher people were claiming Sony was trying to buy. Realistically it makes sense, the two have had several exclusive AAA games, and Sony is about owning and expanding AAA IP and Final Fantasy is an ideal IP for that. Sony has an amazing partnership with not only Square but Disney and Marvel and Kingdom Hearts is a bridge there and if I remember correctly they didn't show what platforms it was coming to which makes no sense considering part 3 came to all of them. Final Fantasy games / movies, Kingdom Hearts games / movies, Dragon Quest anime seasons, Life is Strange Netflix series, etc....

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RaidenBlack761d ago

WB Studios is/are rumored to be up for sale as well ...

blackblades761d ago

As well rumors of Sony getting them, but rather have a 3rd party getting them.

Eonjay761d ago

I think this basically means that Sony is buying Square. I'm not sure about the rest.

ABizzel1760d ago (Edited 760d ago )

@blackblades

Each studio is allegedly up for sell, but that doesn't guarantee the IP's. So I agree with you to an extent that if it's just the talent / studio name Sony is the most likely buyer. But considering they're being sold individually and how AT&T is all about money / shares / and expansion of IP I don't think Sony is buying all of them, especially when they denied MS for $4 billion allegedly back in 2020.

Really only Rocksteady, Netheralm, Monolith, and Avalanche (the Harry Potter dev, not the Contraband dev) make sense IMO.

Rocksteady is hands down the best developer there with their experience with Batman Arkham franchise and working on an upcoming multiplayer Suicide Squad (aka progressing to live-action). So, they are a perfect fit to add to Sony's Marvel exclusives. They would make a killer Daredevil / Black Panther / X-Men co-op / etc...

Netherealm has proven they can make good / great fighting games with Mortal Kombat being back in high demand, and Injustice is a good 2nd option. Sony owns EVO, getting them and having them make two exclusive fighting games makes sense.

Monolith did make FEAR, the upcoming Wonder Woman, and Middle-Earth which IMO puts them a step above Avalanche until we see Harry Potter for a similar genre, but also having diversity with shooters.

Avalanche just had a solo state of play for a multiplat-game, which I believe is the first ever. While the combat of Harry Potter looks....acceptable, what truly looks great about the game is the world / setting and the creativity and scale of everything. Now allow this developer creative freedom to make a WRPG with a Fantasy setting and better gameplay, and they're a potential AAA studio in the making.

TT makes Lego games which isn't a fit for PS outside of maybe working on Astro spin-offs. And WB Games Montreal is basically the B-tier after Rocksteady by making the less popular Batman games, but they're still a solid developer (Arkham Knight Wii U, Batman Origins, and upcoming Gotham Knights).

anubusgold760d ago

WB doesnt matter all their Ips are rented out from someone else. Even mortal kombat will be lost and can WB sell Mortal Kombat and take it away from Netherrealm because they dont on their IP.

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-Foxtrot761d ago (Edited 761d ago )

Yeah for 300 million I'm super surprised no one else went for them to be honest.

I hope they embrace Classic Tomb Raider

GamesAsAService761d ago

I think most of the big players don't want to generate additional regulatory scrutiny after their big purchases (Sony - Bungie, Microsoft - Activision). They want to fly under the radar until the deals have been approved. I am assuming that the recent announcements of both Xbox and Sony hiring people to find new acquisition targets means as soon as these deals are in the bag, they will move forward with further acquisitions.

Otherwise I agree with you, this would have been easy pickings for either company.

Michiel1989761d ago

i rather have a new legacy of kain, or a complete remake if a new game cant be justified or something.

smashman98761d ago

I hate you. For making that awesome pun.

patterson761d ago

On the surface it may seem like a good deal but they’re also buying all their debt.

Zhipp761d ago

Asa subsidiary they wouldn't have any debt, no? Square enix would've been the ones taking the losses.

Melankolis760d ago

We don't know the wholse story (we may never will), 300m for all those assets seems too good to be true without it's downside...

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RaidenBlack761d ago

"These are some of the best PC IPs of all time and SE somehow has no idea how to make them successful according to their ballooned expectations. Please sell." ~ Digital Foundry's comment on the news.

RaidenBlack761d ago (Edited 761d ago )

Here's hoping we get a Sleeping Dogs sequel and Legacy of Kain revival.
*forgot to add: a proper new Thief title as well.

DarXyde761d ago

A Sleeping Dogs sequel would be great!

I personally had much more fun with that than GTA V.

RedDevils761d ago

I take sleeping do/true crime over GTA.

porkChop761d ago (Edited 761d ago )

I hope the Sleeping Dogs IP is included, they bought over 50 IP from SE's back catalog so it's likely.

deleted760d ago (Edited 760d ago )

True, Thief started off as a great series back in the day!

I feel as if we had been....wait for it....robbed of a proper sequel up until now!

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blackblades761d ago

Sounds like good news for us for now, let's see if it changes in the future

VersusDMC761d ago

Good news for which side? I personally am more happy that money going to fund eidos IP is now going to Square IP.

I have been meh on the recent Eidos games and i don't really place the blame on Square.

Flawlessmic761d ago

What a steal honestly, wouldve preffered sony or microsoft to be the ones buying but hey atleast its not tencent.

blackblades761d ago

I disagree, I rather have 3rd party getting them.

Flawlessmic761d ago

I have all 3 consoles so makes no difference to me which if the big 3 get them.

My fear with embracer group is whats to stop them from jumping into the console space now?

They have the devs and game ips, the console would certainly have enough exclusives.

Last thing i want is a group big enough to jump into the console space, 3 is enough.

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blackblades761d ago

You really think an unknown company most people dont know about would go into a console space just like that pshh

ThePacemaker761d ago

Flawlessmic

Who CARES what consoles you have?

It is much better for all gamers that they remain multi platforms so that everyone can enjoy those IPs.

Flawlessmic761d ago (Edited 761d ago )

I literally explained why lol or cant u guys read. I stated i own all 3 so my first comment would make sense as i obviously wpuldnt miss out on the games if it was sony or ms.

I said my fear is they will own so much that surely the idea of making there own console or service where its only available there will come at some point hence its going exclusive anyway, onky difference is its either another cobsole on top of 3 players we have already or yet another subcription service.

Probs wont happen but like i said just a fear.

And also just like u guys dont care, i dont care if you or other people wont be able to play certain games, sounds like a you problem 🤙

Zhipp761d ago

My reaction was the exact opposite. Just happy MS or Sony didn't nab them.

neutralgamer1992761d ago

300 million for all that is a great deal for embracer and I mean what are you thinking SE? Those are some valuable IP's

I really thought they were the acquisition Sony would have made but now I am puzzled by this. So many publishers would have paid more than 300 million for all that. I mean Sony paid over 3.5 billion for Bungie(and before someone comes in and says Sony over paid, Bungie can make Sony a FPS that can compete and beat halo and compete in live service market)

Flawlessmic761d ago

Sony still wayyyyyyyyyy overpaid for bungie no matter how you slice it.

Beating halo aint that hard these days so its not saying much.

I wouldve taken this purchase over bungie all day, everyday and twice on sunday and have a cool 3 billion left over to buy konamis ip or konami whole and would probs still have more money left over to bu even more ips or devs.

Instead we got bungie with 1, i repeat 1 ip and its nothing special.

That bungie deal sucked ass for sony simple as that.

SoulWarrior761d ago

I agree, over 10x that for bloody bungie and destiny, and they are keeping everything multiplat (ms not doing the same with Bethesda), it just makes me laugh, such an awful deal.

Jim and Herman seem obsessed with cramming PS players with live service games, did they forget what brought the huge success last gen?

Flawlessmic761d ago

@soul warrior

I hear ya mate, 3.6 bill for bungie was laughable while giving them complete autonomy like what did they even pay for then if sony cant even have a say if push came to shove.

Add in the fact sony probs overpaid for haven which hasnt even done a single thing then throw in the other billion wasted on the metaverse.

Unfortunantly its looks like there going down the same road as everyelse now, crummy live service games = easy money for unfinished games that lack content, dont have a decent story or top shelf graphics, which is what sony is known for.

Hate this new direction sony are going, its honestly the first time in 26 years since iv started gaming that im starting to doubt them and the games there gonna provide.

Iv always owned majority of the consoles released between ps1 and now but playstation has always been the day 1 never a doubt.

Hope im wrong but i think those days are over.

tagzskie761d ago

@flawlessmic yeah bungie for me is 500-800m at best with just destiny franchise(even with the knowledge of live service). But maybe sony knows something that we dont? I'll take this deal over bungie, That deal is OP

Elda761d ago

To you & I that seems like an overprice for Bungie but Sony is a billion-dollar business & they must have had good business reasons to buy Bungie at that price,evidently knowing something that we don't know.

TheCaptainKuchiki761d ago

I don't think they overpaid. Destiny is one of the top 5 lucrative game in the world I think. It gives them a huge IP to counter COD, Fallout and TES (not Halo, they don't care about that).

tay8701761d ago

sony didnt just pay 3.6 billion for the company and the destiny ip. they paid for bungie's tech and knowledge in the gaas world. over 1 billion of the 3.6 billion purchase price went specifically to the people who actually made the game. they wanted to make sure they werent going anywhere for 5 yrs so they could use there expertise to help then jumpstart gaas for other playstation studios. im not a big fan of gaas in general, but with the right ip i will definitely jump in with both feet. i am especially interested in the last of us game and the rumored insomniac marvel gaas game. bungie is a major money maker and they are going to show sony how do do it properly. seems like a lot of money now, but they will quickly recoup the money with bungie's help.

Flawlessmic761d ago (Edited 761d ago )

Yea because apparently there no other completely online games with succesfull online strcutures right?? Bungie must be geniuses to have the first online game ever.

Ive heard that rubbish regurgitated so many times about the talent and online structure.

Like i said u can try swing it anyway u want but bungie aint close to being worth 3.5 billion.

There were much better deals to be made out there with much more talented devs.

This deal proves that, the deal for insomniac proves it, the deal for bethesda proves it, thats what you call good value for talented devs, multiple studios and multiple valuable ips.

Destiny is a good game at best, dont know why you defenders come put acting like they have created gamings masterpiece to be so overvalued.

The bungie deal stinks and you know hence why u need to cling to internet infrastructure, so called talented devs that have made 2 games since halo with a metacritic sitting around 80 at best. And my favorite one to hear is bungie has something hiding that we dont know about lol.

Bungie aint that talented, they skinned sonny for everything they could and came out on top.

gamer7804761d ago

Yah bungie went downhill after halo

smashman98761d ago

They secured the talent at bungie which is more vital than the IP itself. If you remember something like 2 billion was paid to make sure the staff stays.

neutralgamer1992760d ago

You are missing the point completely. Ms paid 45% above market value for Activision so the market has inflated. Another thing people miss in that 3.6 billion is about half of that is going towards making Bungie even bigger and retaining their current talent core

No doubt in a normal world Bungie would go for under 1 billion and Activision for around 45 billion but this no longer is normal

Flaw

Sony knows what they are working on and we don't

ABizzel1760d ago (Edited 760d ago )

"Sony overpaid for Bungie Overcome Objection 101"

1. Made the 3rd and 4th best-selling FPS franchises of all time, with both earning over $4 billion in revenue.
2. Owns rights to said 3rd best-selling FPS franchise of all-time which earned over $4 billion in 2 games.
3. Said franchise earns an average of over $300 million per year in add-on content
4. Said franchise in its 4th year still sees several hundred thousand - 1 million players daily (other IPs are dead)
5. Said franchise is becoming a multi-media IP for gaming / film&TV / and eventually heavy merchandise
6. Expertise in Live-Service games (of which Sony has plenty to release and learn from)

Definitely not worth $3.6 billion.

Possibly the only independent developer at the time to have not one but 2 multi-billion dollar franchises to their name.

For comparison, every single-player game would need to sell 33+ million copies to hit multi-billion status but since PS5 games are now $70 Sony helped drop the goal down to a more achievable 28.5+ million copies for multi-billion status.

Every F2P game would have to earn $200,000,000 per year for the next 10 years, to achieve what Destiny does/did in just 3 - 4 years. That's if said multiplayer game is even able to achieve a 3 - 4 year lifespans while maintaining a 6 and 7-figure player counts daily. Meanwhile in reality player counts for anything not named Fortnite, Warzone, Apex haven't seen 6 figure player counts 6 months post launch.

That's why they paid for them. Bungie's games will pay the $3.6 billion on it's own over time. They also have a studio that can help their other live-service games hopefully see even 1/4 of the success Destiny has had which would be a huge financial win.

It's the same things as someone buying an investment home, yes for some people it could be 3% of their own overall value or 1/3 or 1/5 of your budget, but if your investment pans out you can make 2x or significantly more than you paid for the property to begin with.

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phoenixwing761d ago

In my eyes sony over paid for bungie it will take many years unless they make the next fortnite to get that money back. The only real reason I can see them paying that much is so they have talented devs at keeping online games running smoothly which may be worth all that money in Sony's eyes when it comes to their future in online games as a service.

ocelot07761d ago

I"n my eyes sony over paid for bungie it will take many years unless they make the next fortnite to get that money back"

You do realise Desinty 2 is still one of the most played games today right. Normally around a million players per day. They then have all sorts of DLC and MTs and I'm pretty sure it's not just one or two people out if them million players paying for silver to buy things. They must make a fair wack per day on MTs alone.

So I'm sure Sony know what they where doing when they paid that much for Bungie.

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Every PlayStation Studios game available now on Windows PC

Windows Central writes: "Many PlayStation Studios games that are ported to PC get dedicated PS5 DualSense support, which allows users to experience haptic feedback and adaptive trigger support without actually having to own a PS5.

According to Hermen Hulst, head of PlayStation Studios, it's still the company's intent to launch the bigger single-player games on PS5 first, before later bringing the games to PC. This might not be the case for multiplayer games however, which are considered okay to launch simultaneously on console and PC."

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ocelot0712h ago

My guess is after god of war. Probably last of us 2 that's a almost 4 year old game now and by the time it's released on pc it will be more than 4 years old or close to 5.

Elda6h ago

Every old Playstation game that is now on PC.

XiNatsuDragnel4h ago

Good at least they can sell hardware

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Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie

Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie. This is something of a homecoming, as Microsoft owns Activision.

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Obscure_Observer22h ago

Very very early in development. Still, fantastic news!

Let´s GO!!!

Lightning7720h ago

I guess.

How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )

At least it wouldn't be MS of all ppl destroying them.

MS really should let go Tango go like they did TFB here.

darthv7220h ago(Edited 20h ago)

one was under Bethesda (Tango) the other under Activision (TFB). Clearly each one handled the separations of their subordinates differently.

Obscure_Observer19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

"How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )"

Perhaps because Zenimax and ABK handles such matters differently based on their own internal policies as "independent" publishers.

Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future. Which could also be the reason why they ensured an exclusive partnership with TFB and its new game, before anyone else.

Sad and disgusting. But it is what it is.

Lightning7716h ago(Edited 16h ago)

"Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future."

MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB.

It's inexcusable, they have options on how to handle studios they don't want anymore with killing jobs. Not just MS but the rest of the industry also.

Sad and disgusting sure how many will get shut down next year or this year even?

I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another.

Obscure_Observer8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

"MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB."

Imo, MS separated from TFB because they didn´t had a game associated with Xbox yet, unlike Tango.

"I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another."

Fair enough. It was indeed an epic dumb move from them to close Tango.

Still, all to be forgotten, like always have. This is not the first time a big publisher shuts down a beloved and/or successful studio out of nowhere and certainly won´t be the last. Do you remember Lionhead? Do you remember Evolution Studios? Yeah... both were beloved studios and yet, those companies kill those studios in q blink of an eye and got away with it.

anast6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

The studio boss made some money from this transaction. Once the game releases, the studio will get chopped up.

-Foxtrot22h ago

Manages to buy their freedom especially after all the shit Microsoft has been doing with its studios lately

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Goes right back to them as partners.

Okaaaaaay...

darthv7220h ago

Id venture a guess that TFB working directly with MS was a better outcome than working through Activision to get to MS.

VersusDMC18h ago

From the article...

"Toys for Bob spun out as an indie back in February after Microsoft instituted sweeping layoffs that impacted 86 employees, which was more than half of the staff"

I doubt those 86 employees enjoyed the Microsoft experience over Activisions.

Inverno18h ago

MS shuts down studios because of lack of resources and then helps these guys by giving em resources. Also MS is what forced them to buy their freedom in the first place? What kind of logic 😂

Chevalier15h ago

The best thing is that the company that is worth $3 trillion and owns the company instead of Xbox lacks resources. How the hell does a company worth $3 trillion making a measly $70 billion purchase they 'can't' support. Lol

Sciurus_vulgaris20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Xbox’s gaming division seems to still function as 3 semi-autonomous sub-divisions, Xbox Studios, Bethesda and ABK. The three main sub-divisions can seemingly shut down or build studios and set up partnerships independently. This would explain why Bethesda can recently shutdown studios, while ABK spins off one studio, while building a new one. Plus, Toys for Bob could be spun off by ABK, only to immediately re-partner with Microsoft.

Chevalier14h ago

That's absolutely 💯 BS. Any sane 'autonomous' company would NOT put their games on Gamepass day 1 like COD will lose probably billions.

Also they're all under Xbox game studios so any autonomy is an illusion.

PhillyDonJawn2h ago

No, I'm sure MS can and does step in when they want something done specifically but I'm also sure they let them also work independently

Elda15h ago

Either a kiddie game or something uninteresting.

Obscure_Observer8h ago

Don´t worry. You won´t be playing it anyway since their next game will possible be a next gen Xbox console game.

PhillyDonJawn2h ago

Right probably something like astrobot

romulus232h ago

Nah he said "uninteresting", lots of people are interested in Astro Bot.

Elda7m ago

Never Astro Bot. Astro Bot looks better than any exclusive released on XB this entire generation & believe there hasn't been much.

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Sony shares big new PS Plus stat, but not the one we want to see

PlayStation Plus has improved the split of PS4 and PS5 players on its priciest tiers, but Sony continues to hide total subscriber numbers.

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mandf1d 2h ago

lol acting like it’s equivalent to ms numbers

Mr Logic1d 1h ago

Uh...They're definitely not equivalent.

"Microsoft’s Xbox Game Pass service now has 34 million subscribers."

"the total number of PS Plus subscribers across all tiers was 47.4 million"

darthv721d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN.

bloop21h ago

That's not the "gotcha" you think it is Darth.

darthv7220h ago

^^it's not supposed to be bloop.... it's just an interesting observation.

Einhander197219h ago

darthv72

"That PSN number seems like it should be much higher... especially when you consider that PS4 alone has a sell through of over 117m. To not even be at least half that is rather interesting.

To the XB side, having 34m to an install base of roughly 50m (XBO sell through) or even 85m (360 sell through) is a greater percentage of unit to member ratio than PSN."

Have you ever heard of a PC before? I hear they are pretty popular.

fr0sty13h ago

MS started lumping gold subscribers in with those GP numbers... keep in mind.

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shinoff21831d ago (Edited 1d ago )

What. Definitely more os plus subscribers but that makes sense due to actual console sales

Darth the difference between the bases are huge your right but you gotta think. Ps players buy more games, where as the Xbox base relies on gamepass for their gaming. So it makes perfect sense

darthv721d ago (Edited 1d ago )

What makes perfect sense though? You say PS players buy more games... so then logically there should be more PS+ subscribers given the increased number of online multiplayer games in the PS4 generation alone. The PS4 was the first time that + was required for online play much like Gold was for 360 users.

Keep in mind we are talking subscribers, not simply XB/PS users. I assume you meant to say offline single player games, which is most likely true as well. That gen also saw a significant increase in games with an online component comparted to the previous gen.

victorMaje23h ago

I for one will be going back to essential at the next renewal. When I feel a game is good & right up my alley, I’ll check trusted reviews & just buy it.

jznrpg22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

I have the top tier until 2028 as they gave me a massive discount for all the years I had left but I’ll most likely go to essential as well. I buy my games but my kids do use the service occasionally. They do prefer to own their games as well since any game can leave the rental service at some point and they don’t like that idea. They mostly use it to demo games then ask me to buy games if they really like it.

RedDevils18h ago

For me, I will cancel it all together but unfortunately I still have it till 2030 lol

meganick22h ago

I would like to see Sony add a fourth tier of PS Plus for people who just want to be able to play games online without any of the perks like monthly games, store discounts, or anything like that, and it should cost $20 annually, $30 maximum. There’s no way I’m paying $80 just to play games online. Even the original $60 fee was too much, and I would often wait for sales to re-up my subscription.

P_Bomb18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Essential is too expensive, I agree. We’ve got one Essential and one Premium sub. Dropping the Premium when it expires.

gamerz15h ago

Just let my subscription lapse for the first time since 2010. Will sub again every now and then for a month or so to access my old ps+ games but for me it's the end of an era.

DivineHand12514h ago

Let those numbers continue to drop because it is now too expensive. $80 per year just to play online. I noticed they didn't offer any discounts on the subscription or controllers during this year's days of play for the first time in many years and they will feel it when people choose not to renew.

My subscription will lapse next month and it will stay that way until further notice.

KevtheDuff10h ago

There were savings on subs and controllers here in the UK? I bought a controller yesterday in the sale..
It would be weird if those deals were not in other territories too?